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The ‘Bruce Lee’ Seiko 6139-6010

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The ‘Bruce Lee’ Seiko 6139-6010


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If you google “Bruce Lee’s watch”, two main hits pop up. First are reviews and ads for a limited edition G-Shock MR-G which uses Bruce Lee’s name and image in the marketing. It sells in the neighborhood of $6000!

New Bruce Lee inspired MR-G!


The Second most popular return is a gold-plated Polerouter that Bruce Lee gifted to Herb Jackson (a martial arts student of his) in 1969. It sold at auction recently for $28,700.

Bruce Lee's Old Watch He Gave to Student Sells at Auction for $28,700


But what watch did Bruce Lee wear during the last, and most productive years?

After he gave away his old watch to Herb Jackson in 1969, all indications are that until his tragic death in 1973, Bruce Lee became a Seiko fan. The only watch that I can find evidence of him wearing in his final years was a Seiko 6139-6010.

His choice of the 6139 makes a lot of sense. Seiko made quite a splash at the time with its stylish automatic chronograph. Working in the film industry, choreographing the action, it would make practical sense that Lee would choose a chronograph for timing scenes.



THE 'REAL' BRUCE LEE
Now here is where things begin to get a bit murky. We know that Bruce Lee wore a 6139-6010, not by any written evidence, but strictly by photographic evidence.

Let's look at the contemporary photographs of Lee’s actual watch.



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Seiko produced a few different renditions of the 6139-6010, but since about 2015 the general opinion on the internet has been that Lee wore the JDM version of the 6139-6010 with the large blue '5 SPORTS' on the dial at the 9 o'clock. But this opinion has not been universally accepted.



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Recently actors Daniel Dae Kim (Lost and Hawaii Five-O) Yun Lee (Altered Carbon) both acquired quite different 6139-6010s from DC Vintage Watches, both identified as being a ‘Bruce Lee’. While they are both super clean specimens (Daniel Dae Kim even has it on a bracelet identical to what Bruce Lee wore on his) are they really the same model that was owned by Bruce Lee?



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According to research by Homeless Traveller, the first photographic evidence of Bruce Lee wearing the watch in question is dated on or about about June '69 at his Bel Air home in Los Angeles. The dial in these pictures does not have '5 SPORTS' printed in blue at the 9 o'clock position, but instead a line of white text.

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After this, until his death in 1973, in picture after picture, Lee is shown wearing the same Seiko 6139-6010, none of the pictures show the JDM dial with ‘SPORTS 5’ in blue.

The clearest photos we have of Lee’s watch were uncovered by Casedhongkong and are dated February 1972, and again the ‘SPORTS 5’ is absent, but the white lettering of ‘WATER70PROOF’ is clearly there at 9 o’clock. This again proves that Bruce Lee did not own the Japanese Domestic Version.



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So if it was not a JDM 6139-6010, which version was it? According to Homeless Traveller advertisements for the Hong Kong version of the Seiko 6139-6010 appeared around the time Lee was first photographed wearing the watch after arriving in Los Angeles in June 1969. So it is highly probable that the watch that Bruce Lee actually wore was a Hong Kong model Seiko 6139-6010 like the one below, with a Chinese/English date wheel.



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So of the two watches owned by Daniel Dae Kim and Yun Lee, which one is the closest to what Bruce Lee wore?

Let’s take close a look.


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It appears that Daniel Dae Kim’s watch is the closest, but neither has the ‘WATER70PROOF lettering at 9 o’clock as is on the Hong Kong dial. So neither exactly matches the known watch worn by Bruce Lee.


THE BRACELET
The only bracelet that catalogs showed the 6139-6010 on was a stainless-steel triple "railroad" bracelet.


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Each of the planks of the bracelet are linked together by three connectors. It’s one of Seiko’s most comfortable bracelet designs of the era: light, strong, and comfortable.

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Bruce Lee didn’t keep his 6139-6010's bracelet stock however. Multiple photos taken over his last years show that Lee modded the watch to his style, choosing what was either a Stelux or Kreisler rally style bracelet.





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It was an unusual bracelet, with elongated oval-shaped vent holes, as opposed to circular shaped holes more common in this style of bracelet. It has been speculated that the choice of this bracelet may have had to do with the elongated holes resembling the number 8, which Lee may have considered auspicious.

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Homeless Traveller has found that by February 1972 Lee had replaced the previous Kreisler/Stelux bracelet, and mounted his 6139-6010 on a Seiko bracelet meant for a 6139-8020. It's clearly too wide for the 19mm lugs. He is seen in photographs wearing this bracelet through casting and on location for Way of the Dragon from April through June 1972. There is also a picture of Lee with the 6139-8020 bracelet on his wrist on the set of Enter the Dragon a few months before his July '73 death.

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So which 6139-6010 is the authentic Bruce Lee?


If you are like me, and the 6139-6010 that you own isn’t the waterproof, Hong Kong model from 1969, can you still call it a Bruce Lee?

I know I will.

In spite of the overwhelming photographic evidence that pretty much proves that I’m delusional in my claim, the fact that Lee’s watch was never mentioned in his journals or come up for auction, means that there will always be a modicum of doubt about what a 'True Seiko Bruce Lee' really is, and that’s the straw I’m grasping.
 
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One in really good condition sold for $848 on Yahoo Japan this morning.

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Thanks for sharing. Good write up, I’ve been aware of this one through chats with a fellow member here in the past.
While I admit that DC Vintage is resourceful in finding you sought after variants, I can’t first hand vouch for their watchmaking skills or quality of in-house work tho.


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They are expensive compared to what I'd pay at an auction, but the restoration is already done. At any rate, I admire how they photograph their pieces.

Very creative.
 
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I have been lurking about reading about the many informative posts about the 6139-6010 (or 61SP 022 in the Seiko cataolgues) because I am looking to add a watch like this. My usual Seiko is a Bellmatic 4006-7000, which hasn't been serviced in thirty-years, but everything still works including the alarm. It has been in the family since it was purchased new.

About the Bruce Lee 6139-6010, was his watch the JDM 5Sports SpeedTimer model? I have seen several pictures of him wearing it, but cannot see the 5Sports clearly. I recall reading that the family pictures in Seiko Hoarder's original post were taken circa 1970, whilst he still lived in Los Angeles. Not sure he had even visited Hong Kong yet when the picture was taken, so might it have been a North American model?

I saw a picture many years ago that showed his watch up close. Cannot find it at this moment, but will keep looking for it. I believe he replaced his Stelux/Kreisler bracelet with a Seiko rally bracelet (smaller, circular holes) after he relocated permanently to Hong Kong (in 1970?).
 
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According to the website above, Bruce Lee moved to Hong Kong with his wife and kids on Oct 11, 1971. Then May 4, 1972 flew to Rome to film Way of the Dragon. I recall many pictures of him in Rome with the smaller circular hole bracelet on what was likely the same 6139-6010, so the IG pic would be from '72. Towards the end of his life he wore a gold watch.

Again from that website timeline, which I have compared to other sources, it looks like he was not in Hong Kong to plan his relocation until March 1970. Well, he was there in 1965, but could not have got his 6010 then.
 
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I'm really impressed by your detective work.

We must also take into account that the just on-time supply chain did not exist as it does today, so there was more of a lag between the manufacture and the purchase of an item. A watch made in Japan in 1969 may not be sold in a retail outlet in another country for more than a year!
 
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So what can we TRUTHFULLY say about Bruce Lee's 6139-6610? I'd like to correct my 1st post if it is wrong. People may refer to this post in the future, and I want to be accurate.

HT has uncovered some pertinent info that I wish that I had.

Can we construct a timeline based on the photos and biographical detail?
 
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Thanks Seiko Hoarder for starting this discussion. Hopefully we can find a definitive answer.

The only thing I can confidently say at this time is that Bruce Lee did not buy his 6010 in person in Japan or Hong Kong because he was wearing it before he even travelled to Asia. However, as you said, the inventory systems of the day meant it would be difficult for a new watch to be available in another country so quickly after the product launch in its home market. So how did he get it ...

I will try to narrow down when in '69 he was first seen wearing the watch and corroborate with the timeline. It seems there are fewer high quality color photos of him freely available now. I even read about some controversy amongst fans about sharing photos, but that is getting off-topic.
 
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Here is part of an article in the 6139 that agrees with my post, but based on what evidence?

I look forward to hearing more from Homeless Traveler. I think he's on to something.


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I found a few nuggets of information, but still no definitive answer about the Bruce Lee watch. Seiko's sole distributor in Southeast Asia is Thong Sia Co. (Singapore) PTE Ltd / Thong Sia Watch Co. / Thong Sia Group and it was appointed sole distributor at the end of 1963 according to one article in a Singapore daily. Their Hong Kong branch Thong Sia (HK) Co. Ltd. was established in early 1964.

Interestingly, Thong Sia Group was acquired by Stelux in the 2000s. Stelux is still Hong Kong-based, though the original Thong Sia in the 1960s was Singapore-based with overseas branches.

The reason I mention this is because the earliest Singapore newspaper advert I found for a 6139-6010 was from September 18, 1969. There were previous adverts by Thong Sia Co. (Singapore) PTE Ltd advertising various Seiko products, but not the 6139. If the JDM 6139s were released in May '69 and casedhongkong has in his possession a July '69 production 6010, we can safely assume that many Asian markets followed a few months later. The North American and rest of world markets might be an entirely different story.
 
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Just wanted to add that JDM 6010 has been known to have production date as early as Jan 1969 before hitting the market by May. So it’s safe to say that a July 69’ produced non-JDM version probably wouldn’t be out on the market until a few months after. However I have no information on when the earliest production date is for non-JDM version. It just so happens that mine was made in July.


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Found this possibly very useful link, all credit to Getty Images.

That might be the earliest picture of Bruce Lee wearing the 6010. Although the caption in the above photo reads circa 1970, according to the timeline at https://bruceleewashere.com/timeline, his mother and brother visited him in Los Angeles on May 30, 1969. No idea how long they stayed, but it would probably be a matter of weeks not months, so let's say the picture in the link was June '69. That's only a month after the JDM release.

For some reason, my original hunch was that he bought his watch in California, but now I'm ruling that out. Still not definitive, but what do you all think? Should we be leaning again towards a JDM model because he was able to get it so quickly?
 
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Found this possibly very useful link, all credit to Getty Images.

That might be the earliest picture of Bruce Lee wearing the 6010. Although the caption in the above photo reads circa 1970, according to the timeline at The Web's Most Comprehensive Visual History of Bruce Lee's Life, his mother and brother visited him in Los Angeles on May 30, 1969. No idea how long they stayed, but it would probably be a matter of weeks not months, so let's say the picture in the link was June '69. That's only a month after the JDM release.

For some reason, my original hunch was that he bought his watch in California, but now I'm ruling that out. Still not definitive, but what do you all think? Should we be leaning again towards a JDM model because he was able to get it so quickly?
It does make sense that if he’s got it so soon after JDM release then it’s more likely to be a JDM version than not.


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Actually, your July '69 non-JDM 6010 is already the earliest production I've seen. I encountered one about a year ago that was produced Aug '69. I probably should have bought it, but I was not sure at the time what is the actual Bruce Lee 6010.

I played with the picture you found on IG. The lighting in the original picture makes the watch and bracelet look black, or at the very least a dark grey, so all the lume plots stand out even more. As you and Reynaldo have observed in an earlier post, the white shield in the '5' at the 9 o'clock position should show as well. However, I simply cannot get anything to show no matter how I play with the colors in the picture.
 
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It's a later picture with a different bracelet, who's to say it's not a different watch as well?

He would have owned the 6010 for a couple of years by the time that photograph was taken, and people sometime buy two of something that they really like.

I'm just looking at all the possible scenarios.

By whom and on what basis was the JDM Speed-Timer originally identified as being THE Bruce Lee chronograph? It seems to be the only model associated with him in watch articles going back several years online.