greetings guys.
Im a relatively new watch enthusiast, very new in fact, only less than 1 yr. But i have been actively buying from ebay since 2000. So i do know a thing or two buying things online. And i live in asia. Ok just a very brief introduction about myself.
Just want to clarify something, and maybe educate myself along the way.
Think some of us know that theres a Seiko black samurai FS now. Im very much a buyer and very rarely a seller. I usually only pay by Paypal the last recent yrs of buying, as we know that it offers 100% coverage should the thing not turn up or turn up as not describe. When i start to buy watches, then i got to know and understand about seller protection, AKA the charge back thing. Thus i understand why some sellers do not accept PP payments from buyers whom they never deal with. Worried that they get scammed and got charge back from their credit card. Well bad people exist everywhere, curse them for stealing peoples hard earn money. Maybe I'm wrong, but think if the the sellers does send in proper registered mail to the buyers PP registered address, then maybe they are more covered. Again, my brief knowledge of this, just to share. The day i really wants to sell actively online i make sure I jam myself with google info about this. Now I just continue buying.
So the seller of the watch doesn't trust me enough for me to send payment thru PP. Totally understand. So i decided to bank wire instead for the first time, and in a long time i buy without protection. But i do trust him enough from the email correspondences. He's a very sincere and honest guy, at least to me.
As he resides in Greece, I'm wondering if they have a different kind of system there or something. To me, wire should be the safest for a seller isn't it and worst for a buyer. Once i wire over thats it. I can't retrieve my funds should anything go wrong. Again, pardon me if I'm wrong pls.
But according to him, i can't do wire because if i do that, he can't under-declare the value when he wants to ship the item to me. Thats the part i don't understand. What has my payment gota do with this?
Whether he uses what courier and to declare at what value has noting to do with my payment mode to him isn't it? No?
I can understand if he's not willing to under declare on a "ethical front with taxes", if you know what i mean.
So now he wants us try western union. Well we all know theres always a bad rep with western union and scams isn't it. To me western union and bank wire makes no difference since I'm already "flying naked". My question is why does he wants to do that and what has this gota do with what value he is declaring when shipping the item.
Is it a system in greece or is it plain ignorance from me as a non-seller. Coz if me and him can agree not to insure the item and not declaring full value, then why WU instead of bank wire.
Thanks guys for reading this lengthy question. Hope to understand more from you.
Warmest.
Cris
Im a relatively new watch enthusiast, very new in fact, only less than 1 yr. But i have been actively buying from ebay since 2000. So i do know a thing or two buying things online. And i live in asia. Ok just a very brief introduction about myself.
Just want to clarify something, and maybe educate myself along the way.
Think some of us know that theres a Seiko black samurai FS now. Im very much a buyer and very rarely a seller. I usually only pay by Paypal the last recent yrs of buying, as we know that it offers 100% coverage should the thing not turn up or turn up as not describe. When i start to buy watches, then i got to know and understand about seller protection, AKA the charge back thing. Thus i understand why some sellers do not accept PP payments from buyers whom they never deal with. Worried that they get scammed and got charge back from their credit card. Well bad people exist everywhere, curse them for stealing peoples hard earn money. Maybe I'm wrong, but think if the the sellers does send in proper registered mail to the buyers PP registered address, then maybe they are more covered. Again, my brief knowledge of this, just to share. The day i really wants to sell actively online i make sure I jam myself with google info about this. Now I just continue buying.
So the seller of the watch doesn't trust me enough for me to send payment thru PP. Totally understand. So i decided to bank wire instead for the first time, and in a long time i buy without protection. But i do trust him enough from the email correspondences. He's a very sincere and honest guy, at least to me.
As he resides in Greece, I'm wondering if they have a different kind of system there or something. To me, wire should be the safest for a seller isn't it and worst for a buyer. Once i wire over thats it. I can't retrieve my funds should anything go wrong. Again, pardon me if I'm wrong pls.
But according to him, i can't do wire because if i do that, he can't under-declare the value when he wants to ship the item to me. Thats the part i don't understand. What has my payment gota do with this?
Whether he uses what courier and to declare at what value has noting to do with my payment mode to him isn't it? No?
I can understand if he's not willing to under declare on a "ethical front with taxes", if you know what i mean.
So now he wants us try western union. Well we all know theres always a bad rep with western union and scams isn't it. To me western union and bank wire makes no difference since I'm already "flying naked". My question is why does he wants to do that and what has this gota do with what value he is declaring when shipping the item.
Is it a system in greece or is it plain ignorance from me as a non-seller. Coz if me and him can agree not to insure the item and not declaring full value, then why WU instead of bank wire.
Thanks guys for reading this lengthy question. Hope to understand more from you.
Warmest.
Cris