would it not be cheaper to jump on the ferry and pop over and pick it up yourself, provided there was a dealer close enough to the docks to make it worthwhile.
It's a product here in NZ and possibly only a name that the company I buy it from uses. Sorry Zapp - two ps.NZWatchDoctor do you have a link to the Zap product, I googled it but only came up with a grout cleaner, is that the stuff you are using ?
Please know that nzwatchdoctor’s opinion is not held by the majority of professional watchmakers, nor by the companies who make watches.
If I have not properly acquitted myself in regards to my knowledge and experience over the years on the forum, then I don’t think trying to start now will convince you. I will say that I’ve been fortunate in my career so far to have received extra training (and continued testing) from a few watch brands regarding the after-sales servicing of their products, and there is no question that they would not even consider allowing the use of products not carefully designed for safely cleaning watch parts. I also know other watchmakers who have received training from brands I have not, and their use of industry-improved solutions is also a given.
If you choose to scoff at this particular industry standard that I’ve put forth, it speaks to what your expectations for excellence are, and suggests you don’t care about the long-term impact you are having on the watches that go through your hands. That’s fine, but I don’t like you coming here and tainting the water for those who don’t know how out of touch you are. The goal here is not to find the lowest common denominator in the cheapest and easiest method possible. Rather, it is to give wise advice to those who seek it, and set a good example that ultimately aims to preserve the one resource we all collectively care deeply about- our watches.
While we understandably don’t know what we don’t know, we are even more foolish when we refuse to listen to those who have invested countless man hours and money into elevating their service standards. In this case, the watch companies are at a distinct advantage to speak from authority, and a continued dismissal of this earned authority suggests an unnecessarily large ego- do you think you know better than everyone else, including watch companies with eye-watering R&D budgets?
I’ve patiently endured your presence here, and will continue to do so as long as you follow the rules. But do know that I will face you head on whenever I think you are giving poor advice.
Then he should be calling out all the rest who happly recommend dish wash detergent, vinegar, or lighter fluid etc, if you look at the specs of chemical Paul uses and L & R they are based on the same main active ingredient - Naphtha , its used in most metal cleaners. Their is a major difference in fixing one watch a month as a hobby and doing a number of watches a day as a job, If Noah is going to start a rant on "questionable advice" on this forum them he's going to have to be fair and do it to all, ( he will be busy )I think we’ve all seen Paul’s at best questionable advice throughout the years. I think Noah was calling a spade a spade, definitely not trolling. That’s my opinion.
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For bracelet cleaning isn't HOT water with washing up liquid good?
Dare I mention that I sometimes let extremely grubby stainless (uncoated) bracelets soak overnight in neat Flash liquid ?It's ideal but often something harsher is needed - well for the watches I deal with anyway.
Maybe you're not aware that Noah is a Professional Watchmaker who is always happy to share Good Advise with us all.Then he should be calling out all the rest who happly recommend dish wash detergent, vinegar, or lighter fluid etc, if you look at the specs of chemical Paul uses and L & R they are based on the same main active ingredient - Naphtha , its used in most metal cleaners. Their is a major difference in fixing one watch a month as a hobby and doing a number of watches a day as a job, If Noah is going to start a rant on "questionable advice" on this forum them he's going to have to be fair and do it to all, ( he will be busy )
Its a pity the large watch companies with eye watering R&D budgets keep great secrets, and will do nothing for this forum
Noah has made it personal, as a "super Moderator" he has other options, he made it personal thats trolling