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Here's an unveiling of a vintage watch, from 1966 (hmmm... who won the World Cup that year??? ;) ) in an original box...in fact in this thread the packaging is the star of the show...











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Crap,,,,,,, I wrote out a reply and it got eaten!!!!
Congrats on the Autodater AND the original box!!
One of my VERY favorite watches was my Autodater and why I ever sold it I have NO clue!!! :-[
Mine too came with original box......... I should have at least saved the box as it was likely worth 1/2 the price of the watch.
I learned a long time ago........ALWAYS save the box!! I collect Zippos and whenever I sell one..... the box always adds value to it.
 

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The watch in the box! :D

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hi John - more photos of the box???....

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Ok John :) It's an interesting watch in fact, an Autodater Seven Monthly from 1966. And it's quite a hunk, measuring about 41mm across, so wider than the more usual Autodater. Afaik it was only available in gold plate, this one is white GP, and only as a 19j version:





The month wheel is rotated manually via the crown at 4/5 o'clock:



Here's the 'jet' rotor auto movement:



Here's a pic with the standard Autodater to show size:





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Axel66 said:
So much cooler than the f... box!
Congrats and a big thanks for sharing!

Cheers,

Axel
Whoa Nelly! Axel's gettin' a little crazy. Must be all this football/soccer starting up. ;D

Watch looks great. Love that rotor and the box is in great shape. If I can manage to keep a watch that long, I think all my boxes will look just as good.
 

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Fascinating pair of vintage Citizens! Is that "7" designation comparable to what SEIKO did with the "5"?
 

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Fascinating pair of vintage Citizens! Is that "7" designation comparable to what SEIKO did with the "5"?
Hi John - not sure if that was the case with these early autos, but certainly was with the later 8200 Eagle 7 models which have lasted from mid 1979's to now and have been Citizen's standard auto.

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great watch! (and box).
Definitely large for its time.

Citizen's 7s and Seiko 5's (and Orient's 3s) are comparable market positioning wise.
Why they each chose an odd number starting from 3 to 7... Now that's a mystery.
 

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great watch! (and box).
Definitely large for its time.

Citizen's 7s and Seiko 5's (and Orient's 3s) are comparable market positioning wise.
Why they each chose an odd number starting from 3 to 7... Now that's a mystery.
I seem to recall that the Seiko's '5' related to the watch's functions, day/date etc (can't remember exactly what they are, others will know, or it can be searched for).

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This is what I've fond for Seiko:

1. Diaflex (unbreakable mainspring)
2. Diashock (Seiko's shock resistant design, equivalent to the Swiss "Incabloc" or "Kif," etc.)
3. Automatic winding
4. Date/date indication
5. Water resistance

There are equivalent things for Citizen, and Orient presumably, but I don't know exactly what makes up the 7 or 3

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Sweephand said:
This is what I've fond for Seiko:

[size=1em]1. Diaflex (unbreakable mainspring)
2. Diashock (Seiko's shock resistant design, equivalent to the Swiss "Incabloc" or "Kif," etc.)
3. Automatic winding
4. Date/date indication
5. Water resistance

There are equivalent things for Citizen, and Orient presumably, but I don't know exactly what makes up the 7 or 3

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Some of these descriptions don't quite fit. I say this because Seiko also made a series of '5' quartz watches which have no mainspring; no Diashock and no automatic winding system.

I have seen other lists describing the 5 features and the only one that doesn't quite fit is the 'auto winding' one. That may be due to a translation error that the original Japanese meant 'does not need winding'.

BTW...do you know if Citizen ever made a '7' quartz?
 

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BTW...do you know if Citizen ever made a '7' quartz?
Not sure - I've not looked at their quartz models in any systematic way. I've seen a 'seven star ' quartz which is not quite the same thing I suppose.

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