id first of all like to
blame , err i mean thank swedefreak for pointing me in the direction of one of the other members on here "thewatchcollector" in the philipines. as i was searching for parts and other watches i stumbled across these two citizens in the pages that he had for sale and i just had to buy them so that they can be restored to their former glory. the one with the black bezel is a citizen 8200 movement and the other citizen i still have to look up, but it looks like it needs a mainspring and wheel and a new stem just to get it running before i can get it looking nice again. does anyone know if these watches came with a rubber or metal bracelet ?