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Just saw this. Don't care to even debate the whole is it MAC V thing. I have never called anyone stupid and never would. I treat people how I want to be treated.

I see that you are a New Member and this is your first post on the SCWF.

This Forum is for people who like to discuss and share photos and information on Japanese Watches. This particular thread is for members who enjoy Seiko Military Watches and like to discuss Seiko's connection to MACV SOG during the Vietnam War.
 

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I don't even know what that guy meant by not calling anyone stupid
I see that you are a New Member and this is your first post on the SCWF.

This Forum is for people who like to discuss and share photos and information on Japanese Watches. This particular thread is for members who enjoy Seiko Military Watches and like to discuss Seiko's connection to MACV SOG during the Vietnam War.
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MACV SOG Bomb Burst Insignia



Never assigned an official crest or patch MACV SOG personnel self-designed the Bomb Burst insignia. MACV SOG wanted a unique patch to represent their unofficial unit and most of these patches were made in small batches. The MACV SOG Bomb Burst patch was never approved or sanctioned by the US Army. Images of Skulls on patches or insignia was prohibited by the US Military. Officially MACV SOG did not exist and wearing a Patch of a Bloodthirsty Skull with Red Demon Eyes and Blood Dripping from Sharpened Fangs would have never been allowed.

The Bomb Burst design first appeared sometime in 1967 and was soon adopted (unofficially) throughout the MACV SOG Program. The insignia was modified over the years with different ribbons, explosion shapes, and skull patterns. The most commonly found are the Standard Bomb Burst that are fully machine embroidered and have a red and yellow explosion style border and a black ribbon across the base.




MACV SOG patches were almost never sewn to utility shirts, jungle jackets, or tiger stripes. They were worn in private and were never intended for display. Some Special Forces Recon Team members disregarded regulations and sewed Unit and Recon Team patches to their shirt pockets or to the inside liner of their boonie hats (where the patch was hidden from view and could not be seen).

MACV SOG Slant Pocket Jungle Jacket owned by Bobbie Pruett 1-0 RT New York



MACV SOG Bobbie Pruett wearing a Seiko SOG Watch. Also notice Pruett's modified CAR15 with Forward Pistol Hand Grip attached to the Barrel Handguard.



Seiko SOG 6119-8100 with Charcoal Grey Sun Burst Dial

 

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On the subject of patches and other "badges" of pride in elite units..... the tunnel rats had a bad ass motto -non gratis anus rodentum . Not worth a rat's ass. And a bad ass emblem - a bipedal rat with a cal. 38

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Aloha

Mabuhay 850
This is the one mentioned
First One
Then the other
Second One
Wow!! That patch looks mint, Louis. How'd you come by it? The tunnel rats were bad ass. But not as bad ass as the black beret river rats hahaha

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Wow!! That patch looks mint, Louis. How'd you come by it? The tunnel rats were bad ass. But not as bad ass as the black beret river rats hahaha

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Mabuhay Brother,

Friend down the street A Filipino Brother had some pictures of originals he had and also gave
me a set of them for keeps.
He was a ..... Tunnel Rat in Vietnam also and I know another Filipino guy that lives on the North Shore
here that was a Rat too.
The first Man still has a original Weapon also in a box that he brought back from Vietnam.
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It's a Minefield Out There.

With all the reproduction parts currently being produced and installed on Vintage Seiko watches one needs to be very careful and do their research before buying. I believe the same can be said when it comes to collecting Vietnam War Era Patches. Original Authentic MACV SOG patches are highly sought after by collectors but buying Vietnam Era patches is an even bigger minefield than buying Vintage Seiko Watches.

I don't collect Military or Vietnam Patches as I simply do not know enough about what is real and what is a reproduction. I have a handful of patches that I enjoy but the total number out there is staggering. I am perfectly OK with a good MACV SOG reproduction patch. My understanding is with the exception of theater made beret flashes and documented patches that have come from Vietnam Veterans almost all the MACV SOG patches currently being offered for sale are what military collectors would call "novelty patches." They were mostly made after the Vietnam War and purchased as souvenirs.

Real, Reproduction, or Just Good Fun?

MACV SOG Patch Collection

 

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This is Not a Novelty

MACV SOG Asa Ballard RT New Mexico wearing his CCC 1-0 Team Leader Jacket.

A 1-0 Team Leader Nylon Jacket/Windbreaker with embroidered Bomb Burst Insignia is a Holy Grail for many MACV SOG collectors.

 

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Gunships of the US Air Force 20th Special Operations Squadron (SOS) known as the Green Hornets escorting a MACV SOG Recon Team into Cambodia. I am preparing a series of posts on the Green Hornets - a highly decorated Air Squadron well known for pilot and crew courage under fire.

 

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Aloha

Hey Kyle check these out ,

They were our Major over Head Support and on the Mekong River also.
They used some support Ships when time was a major factor to get in
and back out again.
They were always on a long hour alert when not airborne.
When you needed air support these guys never failed to accomplish
all what they did.
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Louis

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Aloha Louis,

Mahalo for the River Boat Huey Photos. Absolutely amazing!

This photo is incredible. Are they actually transporting a Huey by River boat?



I can only imagine what the small local boy fishing in his small boat that can be seen in the left of the photo must be thinking when seeing such an operation.
 

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Kyle,

It's possible - see this text from my favorite Vietnam brown water war book

Aloha Louis,

Mahalo for the River Boat Huey Photos. Absolutely amazing!

This photo is incredible. Are they actually transporting a Huey by River boat?



I can only imagine what the small local boy fishing in his small boat that can be seen in the left of the photo must be thinking when seeing such an operation.


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Here's another reference to brown water heli carriers

Kyle,

It's possible - see this text from my favorite Vietnam brown water war book



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"All the new ATCs were equipped with armor-plated helicopter flight decks...."


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Thanks 850champion. Small River Heli Carriers - Amazing. I thought that the Huey in Longbike's photo might be a downed Helicopter and it was being transported as part of a Salvage operation.
 

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Louis,

Mabuhay, please correct me if I'm wrong

Kyle,

I believe the "river carriers" were born out of necessity of having close in air superiority. I read that the seawolves only had max of 90 minutes fighting time before it had to return to mostly Thailand land bases . The precious few minutes lost in transit could translate to lives lost as well
Thanks 850champion. Small River Heli Carriers - Amazing. I thought that the Huey in Longbike's photo might be a downed Helicopter and it was being transported as part of a Salvage operation.
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