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I have an original Pogue H-Link bracelet that I gave to a local jewelry store because the fold over clasp wasn’t closing properly. They just got back to me today saying that the repair would be $95.

They don’t have a watchmaker on-location, so right now they are asking him/her what exactly the cost of the repair entails. The woman I spoke with was under the impression that that high of a cost implied the need to replace a part (most likely the clasp). I said that I did not want them doing the work unless the watchmaker could confirm they’d be using a NOS/OEM part.

That said, should the repair really cost $95? This seems excessively high. I don’t know anything about this type of repair, but I feel like the watchmaker should just be able to bend the clasp into shape seeing as it appears to be a simple stamped part. Is this cost reasonable?
 

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Is this an estimate or bill for work that has been performed?
If an estimate just ask for the bracelet to be returned to you.
My opinion, $95 is way too high.
 

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Unless he is going to weld it and refinished I would say it's too high.

Usually you can fix these easily by bending the blades and/or clasp catch.

Do you have pics?
 

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Is this an estimate or bill for work that has been performed?
If an estimate just ask for the bracelet to be returned to you.
My opinion, $95 is way too high.
I told them to not begin the work until I knew exactly what I was paying for. So right now it's just an estimate.

Do you have pics?
Unfortunately not. Lesson for the future.

i can send you a seiko clasp for 1/10th of that haha. What is broken and needs fixing?
The clasp won't actually catch. I can press the folding parts together, but I'm not getting the "click" that indicates a proper closure and the clasp won't actually stay closed.

And I may take you up on that offer. I'll reach out after I figure out what's happening with this
 

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That could be a really easy fix, you should bent either one of those clasp parts a little bit. (make the left part in the picture shorter or the right part longer) Can be done by hand.

 

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The clasp won't actually catch. I can press the folding parts together, but I'm not getting the "click" that indicates a proper closure and the clasp won't actually stay closed.
Depending on where it is clicking or not, check these points and gently bend. Typically flattening the lower blade slightly is all you need and if needed, the catch on the blade.
 

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The edge could be cracked. I had a clasp that wouldn't click and on closer inspection I noticed it was cracked. If that's the case they might try and attempt to weld it. IMO $95 is alot. If I'm not mistaken there's a few bracelet models that share the same clasp. You'd be able to source one for considerably cheaper.
 

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The edge could be cracked. I had a clasp that wouldn't click and on closer inspection I noticed it was cracked. If that's the case they might try and attempt to weld it. IMO $95 is alot. If I'm not mistaken there's a few bracelet models that share the same clasp. You'd be able to source one for considerably cheaper.


Would never have even known to check for a crack. I think I’m going to ask for it back either way. If it’s cracked I’ll buy a replacement clasp from someone on SCWF, if not I’d rather try to bend it into place myself than get fleeced for $95. Even if they were to try to weld it the general consensus is that it’s still overcharging


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Often if the two parts of the hinge are bent so the catch isn't catching I put a small screwdriver blade in a the join and close the clasp. That usually sorts it.



If the jeweler has to send something to a watchmaker the price immediately ramps up :undecided:


It's incredibly unlikely it's going to someone who'll stainless weld it - that is the preserve of a very few specialists.


$95 isn't unreasonable for an exact replacement clasp, considering it's through a shop.


You could buy an AM bracelet (the cheapest model) and use the clasp only.
 

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You could buy an AM bracelet (the cheapest model) and use the clasp only.
These pogue clasp are really common and used on almost every end 60's and 70's seiko. Finding an original one shouldnt be hard or expensive. So i'd say keep it original.

I have only had 1 or 2 Seiko's with a cracked clasp. Its 99% of the time just a matter of slightly bending the folding part.
 

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You could buy an AM bracelet (the cheapest model) and use the clasp only.

I have no intention of doing that. My Pogue is the first vintage watch I bought with my own money. The bracelet was an original I bought from Brandon (bpc) after getting lucky that others on the forum passed it up. Every part is original and in spectacular condition. I’m not going to sully that by slapping an aftermarket part on an otherwise perfect (at least as far as I’m concerned) timepiece. If it’s possible to get a replacement, original part then that’s what I’ll do
 

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I have no intention of doing that. My Pogue is the first vintage watch I bought with my own money. The bracelet was an original I bought from Brandon (bpc) after getting lucky that others on the forum passed it up. Every part is original and in spectacular condition. I’m not going to sully that by slapping an aftermarket part on an otherwise perfect (at least as far as I’m concerned) timepiece. If it’s possible to get a replacement, original part then that’s what I’ll do
Smart stick with genuine parts...
hey if i need one..
just let me know I would be glad to help...
God Bless,John

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Would never have even known to check for a crack. I think I’m going to ask for it back either way. If it’s cracked I’ll buy a replacement clasp from someone on SCWF, if not I’d rather try to bend it into place myself than get fleeced for $95. Even if they were to try to weld it the general consensus is that it’s still overcharging


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The smartest move, I think!
 

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Two ways of looking at it:
$95 is way too much for us tinkerers, we have access to knowledge and parts and a lot of us have picked up a screwdriver in our time. I have lots of watches that cost less than that!
$95 is not much money when you think about the costs inherent in a shop sending it to a watchmaker, both of which have to pay rent, rates, tax, bills, overheads and with a bit of luck make a small profit too. Hell, we pay $3 or $4 for a coffee don't we? The cost of that is tiny but we're happy to do so.
 

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I have no intention of doing that. My Pogue is the first vintage watch I bought with my own money. The bracelet was an original I bought from Brandon (bpc) after getting lucky that others on the forum passed it up. Every part is original and in spectacular condition. I’m not going to sully that by slapping an aftermarket part on an otherwise perfect (at least as far as I’m concerned) timepiece. If it’s possible to get a replacement, original part then that’s what I’ll do







That's told me off :(


It was a suggestion.
 

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+1 for the bending method. In most cases this will sort you out.
WRT the quoted cost, I think it's highly likely the bracelet comes back with a generic or incorrect Seiko clasp fitted. Most customers will expect a new clasp to be fitted in these circumstances and won't care if its period correct - so that is what would be done. I'd sort it yourself.


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But an NOS Pogue Z002S can be had for $95.



So to me, if you think "$95 is a fair price to repair" then it is TOTALLED.


But in reality $95 is an outrage. Pure and simple.
 
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