Was in Las Vegas this week for business. Went to the Seiko factory store. Most of the watches were returned items( they were marked as "almost perfect") . Most had major handling marks. One kinetic knight and a white samurai had bezels that were stuck. To top it all off they were having a 50% off sale and I can still get better prices when department stores have sales and much better prices online. Oh well, no new watch for me :'( .