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Hi!

I'm collecting vintage dive watch for many years... but got my first 6309-7040 yesterday.

Now there's the question which parts are original and I hope you can help me :confused:

1) Insert: aftermarket, right?

2) Dial: I think it is original

3) Hands: still glow a little bit in the dark. A friend of mine thinks they're also original

4) Crown: I don't know...


Here are some pictures :cool:







 

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I would guess the bezel insert and the hands have been replaced. The rest looks OK, the crown is hard to tell without removing it.
 

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i would have to agree with feca67...insert is not original...and the hands dont look quite right...much newer..otherwise it looks just as it should....crown shows some wear but hard to tell without inspection...great find...i love the one i have....
 

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Bezel insert and hands are aftermaket. The case is very polished, althoug the lines on the sides look fine. Crown looks fine, original.


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you got a great watch...just find the original parts if you want it all original...great find
 

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Okay, so I am new, but how do you tell aftermarket parts? I search and there are posts of "signs" but it is just a trained eye over the years?
 

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6309

From the looks at the crown shot , it appears that the case
has been refinished. Those marks are not factory machine ones.
But it looks overall OK ,
You Might want to change the bezel and hands to originals later
on. The Dial looks original and has the beveled D/D window edges
I would say.
Enjoy it and have fun with it.
 

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Just curious , after looking at the collectors buying guide , are the hands the correct shape but the wrong lume or color ? Why does the bezel insert look off...The dot color or possibly not lumed or just a look alike insert? I couldn't tell the difference from the guides pics ....
 

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Ricardopalamino -

Regarding the hands: on an original set of hands the "corners" of the minute hand are not quite as "sharp" as an aftermarket hand. Likewise, the texture of the lume on the hands is different - the texture of the lume is more pronounced and visible on original hands, and not quite as "smooth" as on AM hands.

Lots of times you can look at the printing of the numbers on the bezel insert and see the "smooth" vs the "textured" printing and ID the differences. Same goes for dials.

Punch in some SCWF searches like "6105 dial and hands" and let your fingers do the walking!

(*And I stand ready to be corrected on the above information...)

Dan
 

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Ricardopalamino -

Regarding the hands: on an original set of hands the "corners" of the minute hand are not quite as "sharp" as an aftermarket hand. Likewise, the texture of the lume on the hands is different - the texture of the lume is more pronounced and visible on original hands, and not quite as "smooth" as on AM hands.

Lots of times you can look at the printing of the numbers on the bezel insert and see the "smooth" vs the "textured" printing and ID the differences. Same goes for dials.

Punch in some SCWF searches like "6105 dial and hands" and let your fingers do the walking!

(*And I stand ready to be corrected on the above information...)

Dan
 

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The bezel insert is slightly wrong in many ways - the black isn't matt enough, the font is slightly to thick, the outer edge doesn't fit into the bezel quite perfectly, there's no edge around the lume pip, and the whole thing just looks far too new, not over 30 years old. The hands are a bit trickier, the lume isn't quite the right color and but overall the quality isn't quite up to Seiko standards, the metal isn't flat enough and the edges aren't crisp enough to my eye.
 

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The bezel insert is slightly wrong in many ways - the black isn't matt enough, the font is slightly to thick, the outer edge doesn't fit into the bezel quite perfectly, there's no edge around the lume pip, and the whole thing just looks far too new, not over 30 years old. The hands are a bit trickier, the lume isn't quite the right color and but overall the quality isn't quite up to Seiko standards, the metal isn't flat enough and the edges aren't crisp enough to my eye.
 
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