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I came across a Seiko 6139-6007 recently, and it occurred to me that I'd never seen one before. I'd like to poll the members here to try to collect as much knowledge as we can...

Some assumptions I have - please prove me wrong if you can, or back me up if you like :)

  • All 6139-6007s are blue, and all have RESIST dials and WATER RESISTANT case backs
  • The earliest observed is November 1970; latest is January 1971
  • They all have English/Spanish day wheel
  • Some have 6139A (but with 1-piece chrono hand) movement, some have 6139B (not sure about the overlap or proportions of A vs B)
  • None have a notched case
  • They all have 6009T dials, meaning 17J below the centre, and only SEIKO AUTOMATIC (no CHRONOGRAPH) - ie looks like a North American watch
  • They all have DAINI SEIKOSHA on the rotor, also like the US market watches
  • They all have either aftermarket bracelets, straps or original non-tapered H-link SEIKO bracelet
Some reference points:

sourceuserserial / noteslink
UhrerbeJun-12poshliatinaFranken with 0D9257 case backhere
SCWFJun-12Rallydiver0N0320here
Wsushi
Oct-17​
Adrian-VTA0D8433here
""Bertnet0N0221 - 6139B"
WUS
Jul-20​
Borozgb0N0264here
eBay
Dec-19​
?110201 - 6139Ahere
Pinterest?Rudy ColomboNo serial - just photo of fronthere
CatawikiJul 19we the best0N9551 - sold with AM bezel, no movement shothere
FB
Apr-19​
Beverlynan/a only photos of fronthere
Catawiki?
Reymem
114090? Fake dial or mis-matched backhere
eBayOct-20usedjewelrybuyer0N01??? 6139A - faded case back, sold for parts/repairhere
AuctionSep-20Richard Winterton119693 - 6139A - came with box & papershere
YouTubeJun-17dimag0N0312here

There have been a few threads on various forums over the years but nothing I can find conclusive - so let's see if we can crowd-source the answers here, eh?

When my 6007 arrives, I'll put up some pics of it here 馃
 

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I wonder if they were produced for Latin America or Canadian markets? Or maybe an overseas US region like Hawaii or Puerto Rico?
Or maybe they were US market watches which took over from the 6009 (do all blue 6009s have notch case, 6139A, 2-piece chrono?), and were replaced when the 6005 came out?
 

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Some time ago when I got my 6007 I researched a bit. The handfull pieces figured out of a web search are all dated End of 1970, October, November, December.
My 6139 6007 has exact same configuration like the 6005/6009, with a 6139A movement.
It has a Spanisch - English daywheel.
I would assume the 6007 was destined for Central and South America.
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Yeah, I wondered if they'd all have English/Spanish day wheel too. I have a July 1971 blue RESIST 6005 that has English/Spanish too, so I'd imagine that's a typical arrangement for the Americas market.

@alexblex - what's the year/month of your serial no?
 

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I鈥檝e only seen them with blue dials. I鈥榲e been looking for one for a couple years to complete the set of each reference with a blue dial. Ewan鈥檚 is definitely one of the nicest examples I鈥檝e seen.
 

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Alright-y. A package arrived for me today...

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Here she is - looking really good, everything works well (it appears) - movement is fairly clean though no case back gasket so I presume not serviced by anyone competent, any time recently... the bracelet is in very good shape with hardly a mark on the clasp, so I wonder if it's a (correct) replacement. The movement inside is 6139A which contrasts with a blue 6005 that I have from July 1971, which used a 6139B, and Bertnet's 6007 from Nov 1970 which has a 6139B. This watch is January 1971. The day wheel is in Spanish, as is the 6005 - so I presume it's Caribbean or Latin American...?

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Interestingly, SEIKO TIME CORP on the 6005 is engraved in a semi-circle at the top of the inner case back, rather than straight across as it is on this 6007.
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The bracelet is really short, but that's fine - it fits me perfectly.


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But here's a bonus... the auction listing didn't say anything about there being a box, and yet it came in an unmarked blue one.

Opening up the box, there were some papers stuffed into the lid, obscuring the SEIKO logo - removed, and with watch installed, it looks very nice indeed.

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Papers? What kind of Papers?, I hear you ask...

Well, for one...
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... and it's got the watch number written on the back so I'm of the belief that it's original:

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Oh, and one more thing:

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I wonder what Area Code: 307 means? Presumably not a Wyoming dial code... maybe a regional code for where Seiko shipped the guarantee? Presumably 69-10 is the date of the guarantee booklet? Anyway, what's inside the guarantee... could it contain a dealer stamp showing where the watch was sold from, answering the mystery of which geography the 6007 was from?

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D'OH!

I asked the Seiko Museum if they knew where the 6007 came from, and they replied (fairly quickly, to be fair):

Thank you for your inquiry.
We looked up in the international catalogs we have but we could not find any information about
where 6139-6007 was made to be sold unfortunately.
We are sorry that we could not be any help this time.
Thank you for your understanding and thank you for your interest in Seiko!

Best regards,
Seiko Museum Ginza
 

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She's a Beauty Ewan!

When I have time I'll locate one of my 6007's and see how it matches up.
 

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hrrrmmmm, i think "one" of those might have to be one of the "releases"....... =)

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I know someone who might be a good "catcher" ;)

 

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Alright-y. A package arrived for me today...

View attachment 454529


Here she is - looking really good, everything works well (it appears) - movement is fairly clean though no case back gasket so I presume not serviced by anyone competent, any time recently... the bracelet is in very good shape with hardly a mark on the clasp, so I wonder if it's a (correct) replacement. The movement inside is 6139A which contrasts with a blue 6005 that I have from July 1971, which used a 6139B, and Bertnet's 6007 from Nov 1970 which has a 6139B. This watch is January 1971. The day wheel is in Spanish, as is the 6005 - so I presume it's Caribbean or Latin American...?

View attachment 454530 View attachment 454531

View attachment 454532


Interestingly, SEIKO TIME CORP on the 6005 is engraved in a semi-circle at the top of the inner case back, rather than straight across as it is on this 6007.
View attachment 454533

The bracelet is really short, but that's fine - it fits me perfectly.


View attachment 454535
View attachment 454537


But here's a bonus... the auction listing didn't say anything about there being a box, and yet it came in an unmarked blue one.

Opening up the box, there were some papers stuffed into the lid, obscuring the SEIKO logo - removed, and with watch installed, it looks very nice indeed.

View attachment 454538

Papers? What kind of Papers?, I hear you ask...

Well, for one... View attachment 454539

... and it's got the watch number written on the back so I'm of the belief that it's original:

View attachment 454540
That鈥檚 gorgeous! Great pickup


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Alright-y. A package arrived for me today...

View attachment 454529


Here she is - looking really good, everything works well (it appears) - movement is fairly clean though no case back gasket so I presume not serviced by anyone competent, any time recently... the bracelet is in very good shape with hardly a mark on the clasp, so I wonder if it's a (correct) replacement. The movement inside is 6139A which contrasts with a blue 6005 that I have from July 1971, which used a 6139B, and Bertnet's 6007 from Nov 1970 which has a 6139B. This watch is January 1971. The day wheel is in Spanish, as is the 6005 - so I presume it's Caribbean or Latin American...?

View attachment 454530 View attachment 454531

View attachment 454532


Interestingly, SEIKO TIME CORP on the 6005 is engraved in a semi-circle at the top of the inner case back, rather than straight across as it is on this 6007.
View attachment 454533

The bracelet is really short, but that's fine - it fits me perfectly.


View attachment 454535
View attachment 454537


But here's a bonus... the auction listing didn't say anything about there being a box, and yet it came in an unmarked blue one.

Opening up the box, there were some papers stuffed into the lid, obscuring the SEIKO logo - removed, and with watch installed, it looks very nice indeed.

View attachment 454538

Papers? What kind of Papers?, I hear you ask...

Well, for one... View attachment 454539

... and it's got the watch number written on the back so I'm of the belief that it's original:

View attachment 454540
That鈥檚 the ****!!!


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That is really cool Ewan! The box and papers is awesome!


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