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hi all,

i've had a weird time of it lately, lots of material loss,
the big one being my house burning completely to the
ground. at this point, i've rebuilt the house, so really,
no condolences are necessary, i honestly can't really tell
if it was a good thing, or a bad thing, that happened.
it is just what happened. i had good insurance, and
i had paypal and credit card receipts for all of my
watch collection, so i was able to rebuild my watch
collection, too. but since this has meant sending a good
number of watches out for services and re-luming, well,
i still have 9 watches represented by paper cutouts :)

i built four wooden trays to house my collection, they're
titled "chronos & monsters", "blue & orange", "fliers &
divers", and "fine black and white". the "fine black and
white" box is pretty much done, so i crowded the tenants
of that tray together and took a group photo...left to right
are:

1. Franken 62mas (Thanks Jon and Guy)
2. 5126-6030 (Thanks Guy)
3. 6105-8009
4. Helson Speardiver ( 6105-8009 re-interpretation)
5. 7005-8052
6. Omega 2254.50 modified (Thanks Duarte)
7. 6306-7000 ( a reproduction of my favorite watch that
burned up in the fire, Thanks Duarte)
8. 7C46-7011 (Thanks Duarte)
9. Dagaz Tsunami Bone Frog ( to be re-lumed and
bead-blasted.)

it's been a lot of time and trouble and waiting and dollars
to rebuild what had been lost, which were about 25 vintage
and a few contemporary watches...i am going without so
many things that i used to own, and my only extravagance
is the watches....i'll add in the other 3 trays as they
are completed. i wound up with 43 watches...i feel like that's
too many, and i want to bring it down to 30. i have a strong
penchant for restoring, re-luming, and also modifying, so
i know it's not everybody's cup of tea, but if anything interests
you, let me know. i have been a life-long artist, and i
approached this project the way i'd approach any art project,
i swing for the fences each time.

thanks all,

peter
 

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Hello Peter,

Well the condolences that I will give you is that my house also burned down in 2011. It took a while to get it rebuilt and my wife and I did a service missions trip to Cambodia for a while in the middle of it. I’m glad you are recovering well. Peace.


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Very nice - keep on ticking, Peter.
 

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Peter your holistic view of life and your journey and the watches that you have and ones that were lost, well, I just admire the way you look at this.

Your photo shows a gathering of watches that every one of us would love to have. If they represent the 'new' you have done well for yourself.

I tell my grown kids every day, life is about assessing where you are standing today, where you want to go, and getting there. Looking backwards is useful only to learn from our successes so we can replicate them and learn how to do things differently next time when need be.

Keep us posted with photos as the other 3 boxes fill up !
 

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I like how you built the trays yourself. It shows you to be a curator.

I cannot relate to collecting when it is reduced to purchasing and hoarding.

For me watch collecting is about curating a collection. Curating involves acquisition, maintenance, research, restoration, display, re-evaluation and purging.

Curation is an art form in and of itself.
 

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Good on ya Peter. When life knocks us down the survivors get up and don't look back, full steam ahead. It's all just stuff. Our relationships with our friends and loved ones are what makes life sweet.
 

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Good on ya Peter. When life knocks us down the survivors get up and don't look back, full steam ahead. It's all just stuff. Our relationships with our friends and loved ones are what makes life sweet.
hi kenny,

yeah, i wish that watches made me happy, that would be easy. good
relationships with other humans put me in heaven, bad relationships
with other humans put me in hell. and all we can do is try to be good
people ourselves, and keep trying...
 

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I like how you built the trays yourself. It shows you to be a curator.

I cannot relate to collecting when it is reduced to purchasing and hoarding.

For me watch collecting is about curating a collection. Curating involves acquisition, maintenance, research, restoration, display, re-evaluation and purging.

Curation is an art form in and of itself.
it really is. i guess we get to decide whether we're gonna be a museum
and keep all watches historically pure ( actually, no museums do this,
they all engage in restoration and preservation) or a gallery of one sort
or another, we can mod watches and express our personal creativity or
we can attempt to restore watches to as close to original as possible,
these are both art forms, and i do the best i can for my "cheap" watches,
just as much effort as the pricier ones get.

i feel like i owe it to each watch in my collection to get worn and
exercised once a month, and if i don't do that, i feel like i'm failing them.
i've been told the best thing for a vintage watch is to rest on it's back
for a month or so but also to get worn once a month to keep the oils
fluid. i wonder if anybody else has other theories on how to best
treat our older watches so they'll age most gracefully?

even watches i call beaters, i've done the best i can with making them
beautiful. i have lawn-mowing and landscaping watches, shoot, the watch
i'll put on for planting trees is a beauty, i'll have to add a picture of those,
even though they don't live in velvet-lined trays :)

and yeah, de-acquisition is part of the process if a watch isn't worn....
i had a 6105-8110 on my wrist when the house burned down, and that
was my only watch for a period of time that was pretty sad, and i sold
it, as it reminded me of hard times and loss, and twice i've gotten a
"new" one, and twice i've sold them both off again. it's not the fault
of the 6105-8110, it's just the way it goes. sold my last one off two
weeks ago, and i should know better than to buy another one. it's
one of those rare watches where you don't lose money buying and
selling it, and i think the 5126-8090 might do the same thing, hint,
hint.

i wish anyone i knew gave a rat's ass about what i wear on my wrist,
even my girlfriend doesn't. hardly anyone ever notices, and i live in
a low-population-density area, so i don't run into lots of people. so
it really is wonderful to have this sort of town square that we can
walk our watches through. i was never someone who thought that
friends could include people you've met online but never in person,
but scwf has changed my mind about that, so thank you. because
as much as i love my watches, they don't really make me happy,
it's good relationships with good people that make me happy.

cheers, all,

peter
 

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Hello Peter,

Well the condolences that I will give you is that my house also burned down in 2011. It took a while to get it rebuilt and my wife and I did a service missions trip to Cambodia for a while in the middle of it. I’m glad you are recovering well. Peace.


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it's quite the experience, isn't it? i came home from work
to a house fully engulfed in flames. it was night, and was
driving towards it, seeing it from half a mile away, thinking,
well, this is really happening. a fire like that is so irrefutable
that you just have to accept it.

i'm sitting in a warmer, tighter, "better" house on the same
foundation right now, if you asked me if i wished it hadn't
happened, i'd have to say "i don't know."

service missions sound great. you get a better idea of what
it is to need some help, a lot of people on this planet are
in pretty dire need....
 

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Peter your holistic view of life and your journey and the watches that you have and ones that were lost, well, I just admire the way you look at this.

Your photo shows a gathering of watches that every one of us would love to have. If they represent the 'new' you have done well for yourself.

I tell my grown kids every day, life is about assessing where you are standing today, where you want to go, and getting there. Looking backwards is useful only to learn from our successes so we can replicate them and learn how to do things differently next time when need be.

Keep us posted with photos as the other 3 boxes fill up !
hi jon,

there's only one modified & bead-blasted case in the lot, the omega.
the seiko cases are a bit sacrosanct :) although i did get a guilty
pleasure out of bead-blasting that 6306. i had bought a bead-blasted
6306 from a guy in Sweden, and it was definitely my favorite watch,
and i just had to re-build that, too. oddly, jack alexyon had a hand
in both 6306's, you can see his hand, the guy's work is recognizable.

( oh, i'm forgetting the "naked" (shroudless) tuna, duarte bead
blasted that one, too, and that watch gets wet.)

the next 3 cases will have a lot of shaved, carved, and modded
watches, those are the art watches for me, and this first tray is done
first because efforts on these watches were more fundamental.
i'll have one tray of watches that'll look like mardi-gras.

i hope you notice that your contribution to the collection is
sitting in the "#1" position. the 62 mas is the foundation...and
i didn't have a 62 mas before the fire, couldn't afford it....
 

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it's quite the experience, isn't it? i came home from work

to a house fully engulfed in flames. it was night, and was

driving towards it, seeing it from half a mile away, thinking,

well, this is really happening. a fire like that is so irrefutable

that you just have to accept it.



i'm sitting in a warmer, tighter, "better" house on the same

foundation right now, if you asked me if i wished it hadn't

happened, i'd have to say "i don't know."



service missions sound great. you get a better idea of what

it is to need some help, a lot of people on this planet are

in pretty dire need....


Peter, it is funny that I had the same experience in that we rebuilt the house on the same foundation and it is so much better than the original too. It was both an exceptional challenge as well as a blessing in what happened from fire to rebuild.

And yes, we supported a hospital in southern Cambodia for about 6 months (Sonia Kill Memorial Hospital in Kampot). Just seeing what life is like for many folks in the world is eye opening. In the US we don’t deal with the dangers with land mines that are still an issue there.

And today I’m wearing my newly restored 7017-6020. Life is full of blessings.

Peace - Tod


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here's a second posting of watches that don't make
the trays....the solar tuna hangs on my headboard
as a night watch, it recharges each day, i removed
a millimeter or so of metal from the bottom tier of
the case "cake" which made it look better shroudless.
the sne109 i carved the hell out of, put a murphy
bezel on it, i had a spare ceramic lumed insert, and
had Duarte bead blast it, that one hangs by the toilet
as a bathrooom clock. Duarte also bead-blasted the
squale, and Everest re-lumed the dial to my specs,
there were chrome indices that we covered over with
lume....all of these watches were bought used for not
much money, and though they're "beaters" i love the
hell out of them. the squale is as flat as it looks, 8mm
thick, it's sort of a dress-beater-diver, if you will. but
what i appreciate about all 3 is that they're quartz
grab-n-go watches that i don't have to worry about
when i'm sledge hammering or ditch-digging or banging
around on the riding mower....the squale i think would
make a great one-watch collection :)
 

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Hey Peter - so sorry to hear of your recent struggles and set back. I can't imagine the range of emotions a person goes thru after an event like a house fire. But good for you to get back after it again and maintain such a great attitude. Perhaps as time goes on you'll look back and get some meaning out of why you had to go thru this. Out of the bad often comes good we wouldn't have gotten any other way.

Nice watches as always. Good seeing you here.
 

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Hey Peter - so sorry to hear of your recent struggles and set back. I can't imagine the range of emotions a person goes thru after an event like a house fire. But good for you to get back after it again and maintain such a great attitude. Perhaps as time goes on you'll look back and get some meaning out of why you had to go thru this. Out of the bad often comes good we wouldn't have gotten any other way.

Nice watches as always. Good seeing you here.
hi mike,

good seeing you too. the fire was the least of it. sometimes the
universe just really wants to clean your clocks. i honestly don't
even want to detail the rest of what happened, mainlt because
i don't want that to be "my story". it's not. but we're given what
we get for our own growth and education. i honestly believe this
life is a test. cultivation of acceptance, or developing a minimally
critical mind, helps us to pass.

or, as the buddha said, "a slap in the face is over."

honestly, it's so nice to have a hobby like collecting seikos where
i can hold a rabid opinion about how i believe in re-luming watches,
for example, and it affects no one, and starts no wars. how could
anybody be that serious about the matter of re-luming wrist
watches?

and maybe it allows us to be a bit more laissez-faire in larger matters,
if so, it serves a real purpose.

i'm a big admirer of your collection on wruw....

best regards,

peter
 
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