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Ok here is a blue 6139-6000 March 1969 every part original to watch head.

Rebuilt by Adrian at VTA including reluming of original matte hands and dial markers to absolute perfection. Keeps perfect time.

CRC (Chrome Rimmed Crystal) polished to as-new condition.

Mounted on NOS JDM SpeedTimer bracelet. Never worn outside house.

Is this worth $2500 ?
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I imagine that another way to look at the discussion could be soley based on desirablity and not price. Both a True Pogue and Blue JDM SpeedTimer are desirable watches and will normally command a premium over many other 6139s. Obviously there are other 6139's that would be even more desirable and corresponding Higher Values (Yellow JDM Speedtimers, Sunrises, Silver Proofs, etc).

For comparison purposes let's use ricetime's True Pogue (A Beautiful Example) on a H-Link Bracelet and Grammarofdesign's (above) JDM Blue Speedtimer (A Beautiful Example) on the original JDM SpeedTimer Bracelet.

You can only own one. Price is not a factor. Which Would you Prefer to Own?
 

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That’s tough. Maybe Jon’s too. His is almost worth the $2500, maybe someday.


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Well, this 6139-6002 Resist yellow dial in nice original shape, just went for 1,130GBP and needs service if that tells you anything about current prices.
That’s unbelievable! I can’t keep up with this.
 

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Ok here is a blue 6139-6000 March 1969 every part original to watch head.

Rebuilt by Adrian at VTA including reluming of original matte hands and dial markers to absolute perfection. Keeps perfect time.

CRC (Chrome Rimmed Crystal) polished to as-new condition.

Mounted on NOS JDM SpeedTimer bracelet. Never worn outside house.

Is this worth $2500 ?
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hey j,

I don't want that speedtimer, but I'll take the one to the right of it =)

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I've got dozens for sale at "I really don't want to sell it" Crazy Pricing which is where things are headed by the sounds of it................
 

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So I quess a True Pogue is worth $2500. Search:

Vintage SEIKO 6139 6005 Water Resistant TRUE POGUE Dec.1971 Chronograph Watch
 

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I've got a nice one for $2500 if any of you guys wanna pony up................:)
 

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Maybe there won't be a correction and prices are where they should be. But looking at the Willard mania and then reissue price trends, I think the watch market is bubbling.
I like the smaller case 6139s myself and have no interest in Pogues or 6138s. As I monitor those price trends ($1k for a "Bruce Lee" ?!?!), I believe things are highly unpredictable, so I take my profits when I can get them.
Well unlike the recent deluge of diver reissues you can reasonably bet there won’t be reissue on the vintage chronographs. Unless Seiko comes up with modern 6138/9 movement, which is unlikely considering how expensive the 8R28/48 is.
 

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Honestly I don’t even think they’re worth $2500.. it’s ridiculous prices atm. That’s why I was honestly surprised at Spencer’s appraisal and really wanted to see how the community felt. I was thinking closer to the $1000 to $1500 (max) range. Although even then that’s still pretty expensive. It’s essentially a $2000 mark up for the “Water 70m Resist” text.
 

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Honestly I don’t even think they’re worth $2500.. it’s ridiculous prices atm. That’s why I was honestly surprised at Spencer’s appraisal and really wanted to see how the community felt. I was thinking closer to the $1000 to $1500 (max) range. Although even then that’s still pretty expensive. It’s essentially a $2000 mark up for the “Water 70m Resist” text.
Yes, but these things are not rational. Look at a Paul Newman dial Daytona as an example.


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Honestly I don’t even think they’re worth $2500.. it’s ridiculous prices atm. That’s why I was honestly surprised at Spencer’s appraisal and really wanted to see how the community felt. I was thinking closer to the $1000 to $1500 (max) range. Although even then that’s still pretty expensive. It’s essentially a $2000 mark up for the “Water 70m Resist” text.
in addition to the dial text, there is also the year of production and the 6009 (vs the 6030T and 6030R) designation on the dial.

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Honestly I don’t even think they’re worth $2500.. it’s ridiculous prices atm. That’s why I was honestly surprised at Spencer’s appraisal and really wanted to see how the community felt. I was thinking closer to the $1000 to $1500 (max) range. Although even then that’s still pretty expensive. It’s essentially a $2000 mark up for the “Water 70m Resist” text.
My sentiments exactly.

At $2500
A. There are many better watches in the hobby to be purchased,
B. This level of condition/preservation is easily found elsewhere in your stated price range,
C There is positively nothing truly rare about our beloved Pogues except the teal dial Sunrise. You just have to work a bit and show some semblance of patience.
 
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