[rob3rto]

Hi all. Told him NOT to buy it but he said "its only £10"

Anyway, it works when wearing it but stops pretty soon after taking it off. The weight is very noisy (bearing?) so while he's in Belgium at some VW show I decided to take a look.

Comments please and be nice

Salvageable or not?

 

[melt]

Looks like the rotor bearing is shot and the brassing on the balance bridge, train bridge and mainspring proves its rubbing badly and needs replacing from another 7009 movement! At least the movement looks to be genuine Seiko.

 

[rob3rto]

Had a look on the inside of caseback and found no marks.

The mark on the balance bridge looks sticky in real life. Will take another look tomorrow as my eyes are hurting now. Need to get new glasses and then a binocular headset.

 

[TheTigerUK]

Even if only £10 why would you buy it ?

 

[rob3rto]

Even if only £10 why would you buy it ?

Cos he saw the 7019-5000 I bought from a Portuguese seller for €18 which works and wanted one too. Little did he know the 7019 was for his birthday.

 

[vinylgreek]

So he's 8 euros to the good then.

 

[Grammarofdesign]

I go to a lot of VW Shows myself. Have a 1968 Type I (Beetle) Cabriolet (Convertible)

Last show I wore my 1968 Seiko 6602 and a guy actually asked 'that watch from '68?' So I could answer 'Yes'. He replied ' Good idea'. Love the VW Show crowd, great people attend.

 

[rob3rto]

I go to a lot of VW Shows myself. Have a 1968 Type I (Beetle) Cabriolet (Convertible)

Last show I wore my 1968 Seiko 6602 and a guy actually asked 'that watch from '68?' So I could answer 'Yes'. He replied ' Good idea'. Love the VW Show crowd, great people attend.

He's got a 1970 type 1 rolling on 17" Audi TT alloys, a TT interior and a 1900cc dual twin 40 dellorto motor. Went to Belgium in his '89 Bluestar though as he was camping.

 

[enicar.racine]

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[ivorbiggin]

Looks like the rotor bearing is shot and the brassing on the balance bridge, train bridge and mainspring proves its rubbing badly and needs replacing from another 7009 movement! At least the movement looks to be genuine Seiko.

Id slightly dissagree with that.
Noisy rotor is most definitely shot bearings, but the plating worn on the bridges doesn't appear to be consistent with the rotor rubbing on the movement.
If the original owner wore the watch on top of the wrist then i would expect to see wear marks from the rotor on the case back, if they were one of those strange people who wear the watch on the underside of the wrist then yes there would be wear to the movement and that looks the case on the edge of the train bridge. However the mainspring barrel sits lower than the train bridge so wont be fouled by the rotor, the wear on the edge of the mainspring barrel i would suggest is caused by it rubbing on the underside of the train bridge because the mainspring arbors have worn the bridge hole bigger, allowing the barrel to tip over slighly and rub on the underside of the bridge thus reducing the power reserve.
Im no expert thats just my observation.

 

[melt]

Id slightly dissagree with that.
Noisy rotor is most definitely shot bearings, but the plating worn on the bridges doesn't appear to be consistent with the rotor rubbing on the movement.
If the original owner wore the watch on top of the wrist then i would expect to see wear marks from the rotor on the case back, if they were one of those strange people who wear the watch on the underside of the wrist then yes there would be wear to the movement and that looks the case on the edge of the train bridge. However the mainspring barrel sits lower than the train bridge so wont be fouled by the rotor, the wear on the edge of the mainspring barrel i would suggest is caused by it rubbing on the underside of the train bridge because the mainspring arbors have worn the bridge hole bigger, allowing the barrel to tip over slighly and rub on the underside of the bridge thus reducing the power reserve.
Im no expert thats just my observation.

A lot of what you say is true particularly about mainspring arbor wear. But you will get brassing on the train bridge because we don't walk or sit with our arms horizontal and watch face constantly up. I would say vertical with crown down would be the most common position on the wrist. So the loose rotor will wear the bridge plus because the case back is steel it will not wear as bad, in fact I've not seen any wear on a case back to date, the rotor is not as hard as the steel case back I assume.