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That's a bugger then as my 6002 R dial serial 60xxxx day wheel is Spanish taper H link bracelet but I fitted that.
No big concern as it's not claiming to be a great one and has had work now being merely presentable when once rough.

http://imgur.com/a/vM7HFPS

 

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A 60xxxx serial number with a RESIST 6030R dial?
My guess is that your watch was delivered with a Spanish day wheel, but a different coloured dial...

Makes sense, some notes I have show it came from a once prolific forum member who disappeared after a scandal on this forum, fan of Enicar watches I recall

 

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At least you got your watch from him Steve.

There was an alarming long/nervous delivery time😧

 

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I'm not saying you have a fake dial - to me, it looks like it's consistent with a RESIST R dial I have... so I'd suggest at minimum your case back has been swapped with a 1976 watch, or possibly the case and/or movement might be from one watch, and the dial from another...

It's Ok, I know the dial is true and aware the watch is a bitzer, hadn't realised the day wheel issue though in that Spanish didn't apply to these. Pollyc probably remembers detail this one.

 

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Thanks for the photos of the Silver Pogues with the Diamond Link Bracelets (Personally I really like the look) but as you stated the straight ends are not a great fit. Excellent detective work on the Chinese Day Wheel - that would certainly add more evidence to the Silver Pogues (especially the Proofs) being only originally sold in China (Hong Kong). As these watches are Hard to Find and cloaked in mystery finding evidence or catalog/advertising photos is proving very difficult.

As long as we are only proposing theories here is one that I believe is a real possiblity:

This is what I know:

The Silver Proofs were sold in Hong Kong by Thong Sia in Kowloon, Hong Kong. Thong Sia was a very large watch dealer and Seiko's only Authorized Dealer in Hong Kong. Thong Sia was owned by Wong Chue Meng. Wong Chue Meng also founded Stelux in 1963. Stelux was the manufacturer of both the Seiko President and Chiclet Bracelets. Wong Chue Meng owned both Thong Sia (the retailer of Seiko Watches in Hong Kong) and Stelux (the manufacturer of bracelets for Seiko).

This is my theory:

I believe it is possible Thong Sia ordered the Silver Proof 6139 watches from Seiko with Chinese Day Wheels but with No Bracelets (Head Only). No Bracelets would lower the retailer costs and Seiko was known to sell at a discount for Watch Head only. The Seiko SOG watches were purchased in bulk at a discount with No Bracelets once again to lower the cost. After receiving the watches Thong Sia/Stelux added the Bracelets. I believe customers were then given the choice of either a President or Chiclet and based on the number of surviving examples I have seen the President was more popular with customers.

IMO the Stelux President is a more conventional looking bracelet that would appeal to the vast majority of buyers. The Stelux Chiclet is a bizarre, futuristic, space age, pillow shaped oddity.

I only have scant evidence to support this theory but I thought I would throw it out there.

Great info, the known detail of the retailer is great info for the collector, suggesting perhaps silver dial was exclusive to this outlet or he just secured a large batch? and the theory makes good sense to explain the bracelet types.

 

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An interesting thread this one and nice to follow but a post earlier up the list mentions the little square under the 60 of the tachy ring being later, this means my 6000 black/blue? dial proof/notch serial 06 shouldn't be like this then
All my 600x's are rebuilt using original parts in the main. My 6005 is virtually original though other than crystal and the best of my few.
A couple may have AM tachy rings, perhaps this is one as it's very well coloured without fade to the blue or red yet some scratches suggesting age.
My notes on them were lost in a burnt out PC so memory doesn't reach back to what had to be done to each of them.
JimW saw a gold one once at Ryton and felt sure the dial is AM based on the sub dial markers.

Don't want to hijack this silver topic thread, just some thoughts coming to mind as I follow.

http://imgur.com/a/uMx44lf

 

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Thats a nice one Steve but the bezel is wrong for a proof and resist, that one wasent until 1976.

Yes the very point I was making John, I think the gold dial one that Jim thinks is a fake could give up it's one for a swap over, that watch has a 73 case back and would also then be wrong but no harm if it's a mongrel already.