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My plain dial is Roman

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FWIW, this is on its way to me from Venezuela. I decided to pull the trigger after some negotiations with the seller and getting input on the T-dial authenticity input from several folks here. I bought it for the dial, hands, tachyring, caseback and the facts that it seems to run. I’m concerned that the dial text on the bottom may be smeared due to oil absorption (sir Alan hypothesis), so it may not be recoverable. We shall see.

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I was also watching that one. I am surprised it lasted as long as it did. IMO a Good Watch at a Good Price. Like many I am very hesitant on anything from Venezuela but that Silver Pogue looked like it was worth the risk Hard to tell the condition of the Dial but it looks like with a re-lume of the hour markers and maybe the hands you would have a good one. Original President bracelet is a Big Plus - I sure would not enjoy refinishing that bracelet with those oval links

Ha! You are right. I may ship this bracelet off to John.

But I have to say that this seller was a joy to work with. He promptly answered my questions, sent more photos, and got the watch in the mail the next day with DHL tracking. He has a lot of honest (well worn) Seikos on his feed on our favorite auction site.

This will be fun!


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Woah, that’s outstanding!



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^^^^ Yes!


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All, apologies for checking this thread a few days late, but I can add my data point that pretty strongly supports the theories expressed so far here. I got my near-NOS proof silver 6139-6000 from the original owner along with two other watches - a 6119-6020 sports diver and a 6139-6000 proof gold dial - who reported buying all three in Hong Kong in January of 1970. The silver's dial is 6030T, the day wheel is English/Chinese, and the bracelet is a Stelux chiclet. Even more on point, the silver came with the Thong Sia sales paperwork, filled out to list the serial number that matches the watch. So I have no doubt it was sold there. Pics:

Also, I agree there was definitely no JDM silver dial version - I say this having devoted an unhealthy amount of time to tracking down every possible dial color, dial type (resist/proof/blank), and target market (speedtimer or not) example of 6139-600X and 6139-603X. I'm still missing an export silver resist and an export silver blank, but having tracked down the rarest of the rare (the Sunrise, the Forward, the 603X resist Italian export, and the 603X blank French export), I'm sure at this point I would've seen at least one silver JDM if it existed. All that said, if anyone's ever interested in selling/trading for a silver resist or blank, please reach out!

Cheers,

Since the Speedtimer book does not address the silver dials (that I remember), do you have pictures of the Forward, Resist Italian Export, and French export?


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Thanks all.



Sure thing, but just to confirm, those aren't silver... they're all Coke -6032s.

April 1972 French Coke -6032:

April '71 Italian Coke -6032 (thanks again, Alex):

October '72 -6032 Forward:

This is outstanding


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This is all brilliant info, thanks folks. And on a plus note my Resist silver dial watch has made it out of Venezuela and has now left Panama. When it gets here I’ll uncase it and take some decent pictures.


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My 6139-6002 got yo me from Venezuela today! It will need a service and a case refinish, but it’s all correct. The “mushy” JAPAN 6139 text and done slurring of tic marks concerns me, but this will eventually go to Simon for some dial help. It’s not as cherry as yours Ewan, but I’m very happy I risked it and picked it up.

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It looks good! It's pretty harsh lighting, every little imperfection is magnified 10 fold.
Simon will work his magic, hopefully it's just some lume flakes around the date window.
Honest example!

Rob
(Ps. Dibs on this one if you find a better example)

Ha! You got it. We shall see how this one turns out.


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Tom, I did not realize this was your watch but I should have realized as you often use a blue background

I recently caught a faint glimpse of this while looking through Ebay listings. Offered with a Buy-It-Now or Best Offer. Rather than wait for a reply to a Best Offer I smashed the BIN button with Extreme Prejudice (I should ask member CombatID for written permission before using his phrase)

Hmmmm, just use (c) after.


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