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Good evening and thanks for allowing me to join your forum of watch enthusiasts. I have had a watch fetish for many years and love everything about watches and timekeeping.
Seiko dive watches have been my latest obsession since mid 2022 and I am completely hooked on them. I love the various case designs, dials and colors that draw me in. I know that Seiko has QC issues but still love their pieces, history and heritage.
I look forward to learning from all of you who are experienced and knowledgeable about Seiko Watches since I have only begun to scratch the surface.
Have a great rest of your Sunday and look forward to getting to know you all.
This is my latest Seiko purchase: SBDC111 Willard!
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Welcome to the site! Such a fun rabbit hole to fall into :) Just curious, do you have 1st hand QC issues? or did you just come from WUS lolololol
I have only experienced the alignment issues so far and yes I have been a WUS member since 2017 and just learned about this forum from a member who sold me a Seiko today.
 

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Yes over on WUS it seems to be required to bash Seikos for alignment issue to keep your log-in credentials working :ROFLMAO:

While it can be true it's not always true and usually noted by the obsessives for conversation sake.

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It seems to me that on WUS the haters fall into three main categories, the SPD Brigade who seem to only like Swiss chronometers recently serviced or new, the Spec Brigade who only look at the, well, specs and are often aliX fans, and the Alignment Brigade who are really just Seiko haters who for the most part have no 1st hand experience and they never seem to hate on Mido, Glycine, Rado ect. Then there is a 4th Brigade I will call the WIS-OCD Brigade, every watch has to pass a 10x or 20x inspection for minute flaws and if they get one mark on a bezel, the watch is a gonner. I do think everyone's boat floats a bit different and most boats have holes in them, I just don't dig the haters is all, my iggie list there is 10 times the number of users as here :) I am grateful for that feature.
 

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It seems to me that on WUS the haters fall into three main categories, the SPD Brigade who seem to only like Swiss chronometers recently serviced or new, the Spec Brigade who only look at the, well, specs and are often aliX fans, and the Alignment Brigade who are really just Seiko haters who for the most part have no 1st hand experience and they never seem to hate on Mido, Glycine, Rado ect. Then there is a 4th Brigade I will call the WIS-OCD Brigade, every watch has to pass a 10x or 20x inspection for minute flaws and if they get one mark on a bezel, the watch is a gonner. I do think everyone's boat floats a bit different and most boats have holes in them, I just don't dig the haters is all, my iggie list there is 10 times the number of users as here :) I am grateful for that feature.
You nailed it on the head馃槈馃憤. I notice that a lot. I am far from a hater and keep an open mind on all my watch brands. I expect my watches to have imperfections since mine do not fall into the luxury or high end categories. I am quite happy and pleased with all my Seiko watches and look forward to trying out more in the future.
 

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More expensive watches and higher end brands don't necessarily have fewer imperfections. You just pay more for them. Same is true with cars. In the end own what you like and can comfortably afford. There are things to love at all price points and for all styles/tastes.

I am currently trying to find my way out of several Seiko rabbit holes - and it is tough going. Just as I have wrapped my head around most of the catalog from the 60's, 70's and 80's - I am discovering some pretty awesome stuff from the 90's. FWIW I think that your green Willard is awesome, and might also end up with one :\
 

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More expensive watches and higher end brands don't necessarily have fewer imperfections. You just pay more for them. Same is true with cars. In the end own what you like and can comfortably afford. There are things to love at all price points and for all styles/tastes.

I am currently trying to find my way out of several Seiko rabbit holes - and it is tough going. Just as I have wrapped my head around most of the catalog from the 60's, 70's and 80's - I am discovering some pretty awesome stuff from the 90's. FWIW I think that your green Willard is awesome, and might also end up with one :\
Thanks for the input. It is my first Willard and really love the fit, finish and comfort of it on my wrist. It works wonderfully on my nato straps, so plenty of options.
 

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FWIW, I started as a Seiko hater. Cheap junk, or in the case of modern offerings, overpriced junk... Then my dad (whom I only met as an adult) gifted me his Seiko World Time from when I was born... This was the first Seiko I had time for (pun intended), and it opened my mind up to a whole new world of very cool watches. Long story short, the last couple years have been a blur, I own over 100 Seiko's now, and have authored one (soon to be two) vintage Seiko, series-specific websites here:


Bell-matics are next.

I own a few modern Seikos, including some Time Sonars and a Turtle. Your Willard re-edition is also on my short list. Glad you have found your way here - though realize you are in a forum full of enablers :)

Seiko is kind of like Rolex for me - in that I find it easy (and completely defensible) to love and hate them at the same time. Completely different ends of the market (at least if we ignore Grand Seiko) - but similar emotional journey.

EDIT: if you stick with Seikos from the movies (like your Willard re-edition), you could be going for a while. Look into the Arnie (Predator), the Ripley and Bishop (Aliens), the various James Bond watches, an original Willard (Apocalypse Now), the Voice Note (Ghostbusters)... etc.
 

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FWIW, I started as a Seiko hater. Cheap junk, or in the case of modern offerings, overpriced junk... Then my dad (whom I only met as an adult) gifted me his Seiko World Time from when I was born... This was the first Seiko I had time for (pun intended), and it opened my mind up to a whole new world of very cool watches. Long story short, the last couple years have been a blur, I own over 100 Seiko's now, and have authored one (soon to be two) vintage Seiko, series-specific websites here:


Bell-matics are next.

I own a few modern Seikos, including some Time Sonars and a Turtle. Your Willard re-edition is also on my short list. Glad you have found your way here - though realize you are in a forum full of enablers :)

Seiko is kind of like Rolex for me - in that I find it easy to love and hate them at the same time. Completely different ends of the market (at least if we ignore Grand Seiko) - but similar emotional journey.

EDIT: if you stick with Seikos from the movies (like your Willard re-edition), you could be going for a while. Look into the Arnie (Predator), the Ripley and Bishop (Aliens), the various James Bond watches, an original Willard (Apocalypse Now), the watch Voice Note (Ghostbusters)... etc.
That is an impressive web site. Thank you!


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FWIW, I started as a Seiko hater. Cheap junk, or in the case of modern offerings, overpriced junk... Then my dad (whom I only met as an adult) gifted me his Seiko World Time from when I was born... This was the first Seiko I had time for (pun intended), and it opened my mind up to a whole new world of very cool watches. Long story short, the last couple years have been a blur, I own over 100 Seiko's now, and have authored one (soon to be two) vintage Seiko, series-specific websites here:


Bell-matics are next.

I own a few modern Seikos, including some Time Sonars and a Turtle. Your Willard re-edition is also on my short list. Glad you have found your way here - though realize you are in a forum full of enablers :)

Seiko is kind of like Rolex for me - in that I find it easy to love and hate them at the same time. Completely different ends of the market (at least if we ignore Grand Seiko) - but similar emotional journey.

EDIT: if you stick with Seikos from the movies (like your Willard re-edition), you could be going for a while. Look into the Arnie (Predator), the Ripley and Bishop (Aliens), the various James Bond watches, an original Willard (Apocalypse Now), the Voice Note (Ghostbusters)... etc.
There are a lot out there for sure. I鈥檓 going to take my time and decide which models I want to try next. I really like the look of the Sumo, but the case size and lug to lug sounds to big for my 6.5鈥 wrist.
 

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As someone with small wrists, I find many modern Seiko divers to be too large for me. I can rock an SKX no problem and can get away with a Turtle - but I would recommend finding a local dealer where you can handle a few in person - so you really have a sense of what you are getting into.

Vintage is a little safer, size-wise - you will find a lot of older stuff to be larger than you might have thought, but still very wearable by modern standards - and not oversized on a smaller wrist.
 

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As someone with small wrists, I find many modern Seiko divers to be too large for me. I can rock an SKX no problem and can get away with a Turtle - but I would recommend finding a local dealer where you can handle a few in person - so you really have a sense of what you are getting into.

Vintage is a little safer, size-wise - you will find a lot of older stuff to be larger than you might have thought, but still very wearable by modern standards - and not oversized on a smaller wrist.
I plan to do that and know of one AD here that carries Seiko among other watch brands.
 
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