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Ended this morning on YJ. Personally I find it really appealing. Do you consider this Wabi, Patina, or just plain moisture/sun damage?
Not sure if the perfect case drove up the price over $500 or other watch nuts found it equally attractive?

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I think what makes it attractive to me is the consistency and evenness of the dial. Whatever the cause it does actually look quite good.

the case however, to my untrained eye looks like its been refinished in some manner. I think the case is more of an issue for me than the dial, unless I knew for sure the case finish was original.
 
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I generally don't mind discoloration, The spottiness of the damage is not for my eyes...I get the appeal, But just not for me.
 

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Same here, that dial is showing a consistent deterioration that may be impeded by a skilled restoration specialist.
 

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I love that dial, wow, I don't know what I would pay for it but dang it is nice, patination for sure :) thank you to the OP for posting this
 

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damaged. patina is when lume plots change color from white to tan not when the overall appearance of a watch changes dramatically.

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I can see the appeal for some watch collectors.

I'm a bit more flexible on tool watches about condition but on a dress watch I'm looking for as minimal signs of wear/damage/patina as possible.
 

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I called it gracefully aged (still a great dial, some color change in the lume) or damaged (what others call WABI or Tropical) which is usually moisture damage and I don't care for. Just terms made up to make a damaged dial sound more appealing, none the less it is still damage.
 

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I like a watch with some vintage patina that shows its age but I'm not a fan of tropical or wabi on a watch dial. I found this macro photo of a 6217 62MAS that I found fascinating and reminds me of the KS Dial. The 6217 62MAS Dial is a very complex color - often described as charcoal with different undertones of brown with hints of green and copper. The closeup shows that its complexity is developed with tiny small "pools" of different colors - very similar to how the KS has aged.

Seiko 6217 62MAS Macro Closeup Photo

 

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I find it interesting but not something I consider attractive, per se.
For reference, this watch is from December of the prior year. Not a perfect dial but it does show the nice linen pattern. And that case shape has grown on me over time.
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This is one of the craziest damaged dials I’ve seen. Everything is intact except the paint on the dial. The black paint turned to these crazy colors and is hard like the inside of a kitchen oven. The hands, text, dial ring and even the integrity of the dial itself seems to be in great shape. The movement was replaced as it was a total loss with one side completely rusted out like it had been sitting on edge in a 1/2 inch of water for quite some time.
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This is one of the craziest damaged dials I’ve seen. Everything is intact except the paint on the dial. The black paint turned to these crazy colors and is hard like the inside of a kitchen oven. The hands, text, dial ring and even the integrity of the dial itself seems to be in great shape. The movement was replaced as it was a total loss with one side completely rusted out like it had been sitting on edge in a 1/2 inch of water for quite some time.
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Looks like some Mars" Perseverance " photos

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Nothing against a bit of UV-burn or tropical with emphasis on the „a bit“. The watch in the first post would be way to much for me. As the saying goes, beauty is in the eye of the beholder, I just can’t find any here. Who knows, perhaps I will think different about it in a few years. And to be honest, who cares? I don’t like the watch, but I do like that there are people out there that think different about this piece and find it beautiful.
 

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I am on the fence about servicing this one. The dial writing is all present but there is a lot of patina on the dial.


All advice / comments welcome.
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JaRe
 
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