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#1 ·
So I've been looking for a birth year watch and by all accounts is this 1985 although the stamp looks double stamped somehow. Does this forum group think see this as being viable for quality refurbishment? I really like the color scheme and size. Pardon Our Interruption...
 
#5 ·
Above is different that’s a 2625
2A22-0039 Specs:
*ISO rating is 150m
*Width with crown is 35mm
*Lug to lug is 38mm
*Lug width is 17mm*Bezel diameter is 33mm
*Case thickness is 10mm
*Crown is screw down
*Case back is screw down
*Hardlex crystal
*Movement 2A22 quartz
*Bezel is 60 click Bi-directional with coarse external teeth
*Dial is black with raised metallic gold indices
*Date only
 
#6 ·
Ah I see now. Sorry about that. Is it considered ladies because it is just smaller or was it actually designed for ladies? I did read that it was a Japanese market release so maybe just smaller wrists there?
 
#9 ·
Vintage watches are always smaller to their contemporary equivalent, swiss included. It's not a Japanese thing, it's a vintage thing. You can go to Japan now and get big chunky JDM watches just like you can anywhere else.

Seiko was fairly regimented about market segments. Divers typically came in 4 sizes across mechanical and quartz. Quartz will be your 80s watches with most mechanical being sunsetted around the early to mid 80s. The lady/boy(some sellers will list them as "boys") watches are going to be quite small and they only came in pepsi or the black and gold you posted.

Pro quartz diver - 7549 - 49mm case
Full sized quartz entry level - 7548/7C43 - 42mm case
Mid sized quartz - 6458/7C43 - 37mm case
Lady/Boy quartz only option - 2625 - 33mm case

I'd go for the 6458 if you want an 80s diver that isn't too big. The other midsized alternative but mechanical is the 4205, however I rarely see these in a condition I would be happy with. They tend to be destroyed or full of AM parts. They have a date only so no kanji day wheel and I'm not even sure they are JDM. I have wanted one(I have purchased half a dozen 6458 but no 4205) but I have never seen one I wanted that bad. 6458 are really great though - I don't think they were ever popular enough to warrant aftermarket parts so you really only have to worry about condition which is rally nice. Alternately you could look for a 7C43-6010 which is similar to the midsized 6458 but has a different handset and has 200m on the dial and no "Quartz" under the Seiko logo by they may be too late for a bday watch.
 
#7 ·
For a birth year quartz diver suitable for small wrists, check out the 6458-6020, 602a, 602b. These are excellent, very high quality, and only made in 1984-5. 38mm diameter, 19mm lug width.

Pay close attention to the condition of the rotating bezel. They are not available, and there are no aftermarket options that fit properly. Watch out for signs of water intrusion or battery leakage.

6458-6020

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6458-602b

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#11 ·
The 1st thing I would like to say is that I encourage you to strive for a BMBY aka bimby birth year and birth month Seiko diver :) Why not, since we can date most references to both month and year. I used to be in love with mid size divers back when i weighed under 150lbs and had a smaller wrist :ROFLMAO: both of my adult Sons have small wrists and while my older Son will even wear a Tuna my younger Son prefers 38mm or smaller. I bought him a 6458 and when reading up about the reference I just grew to love it more and more. The 6458 was Seiko's 1st ever midsize dive watch, like ever, and accepted wisdom is that they added so much extra detailing to the watch thinking they "had to" to make up for it's smaller size :love: hence the nipple dial and extra case shaping and finishing. I don't think I have a pic of my Son's 6458 next to a 7548 but the finishing differences are super obvious. I cannot recommend this model more but with the caveat that gaskets and crystals are not super easy to come by, especially compared to it's bigger 7548 brother. I really like all of Seiko's mid size divers, I just don't like wearing them anymore on my now 185cm/7 5/8" wrist 🤪
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I have already given my Son the 6458 and my SKX013, this pic is pre-servicing
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the next one I plan to give him is this SKX025j which is a bit smaller than the 013 at 37mm and much thinner and lighter since it is not a tsunami backed 200m diver.
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I would skip the 4205 reference but that is just my preference after having one, tons of AM in it.
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I am on the hunt for a nice example of the SBCM025 perpetual to give to him, it is I think the epitome of Seiko mid size divers. Good luck with your search(y)
 
#12 · (Edited)
The 1st thing I would like to say is that I encourage you to strive for a BMBY aka bimby birth year and birth month Seiko diver :) Why not, since we can date most references to both month and year. I used to be in love with mid size divers back when i weighed under 150lbs and had a smaller wrist :ROFLMAO: both of my adult Sons have small wrists and while my older Son will even wear a Tuna my younger Son prefers 38mm or smaller. I bought him a 6458 and when reading up about the reference I just grew to love it more and more. The 6458 was Seiko's 1st ever midsize dive watch, like ever, and accepted wisdom is that they added so much extra detailing to the watch thinking they "had to" to make up for it's smaller size :love: hence the nipple dial and extra case shaping and finishing. I don't think I have a pic of my Son's 6458 next to a 7548 but the finishing differences are super obvious. I cannot recommend this model more but with the caveat that gaskets and crystals are not super easy to come by, especially compared to it's bigger 7548 brother. I really like all of Seiko's mid size divers, I just don't like wearing them anymore on my now 185cm/7 5/8" wrist 🤪
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I have already given my Son the 6458 and my SKX013, this pic is pre-servicing
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the next one I plan to give him is this SKX025j which is a bit smaller than the 013 at 37mm and much thinner and lighter since it is not a tsunami backed 200m diver.
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I would skip the 4205 reference but that is just my preference after having one, tons of AM in it.
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I am on the hunt for a nice example of the SBCM025 perpetual to give to him, it is I think the epitome of Seiko mid size divers. Good luck with your search(y)
I always liked the look of the 6548, but I have hesitated due to reported difficulty getting parts vs 7548. That and my large wrist, never pulled the trigger. Although not as common as 7548s, these sell on Japanese sites for less than 7548s. A decent runner sold on an auction for <$100 last week and there are a few for sale "buy it now" type <$200, running, and in decent shape (add orange tariffs and shipping). Maybe if I see one while trying to fill up a box from Japan.....