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Just seen this new arrival at Cousins:

https://www.cousinsuk.com/catalog/6/0/1305/6247.aspx?code=R38673#select

It's a Bergeon spring bar tool "for bracelets with spring bars, including Rolex". Now, in the past 20 odd years I've never, ever, had a problem removing spring bars in seconds with either a 1mm-ish screwdriver or a simple forked bar tool.

So why on earth would I pay out on this thing? At a price of £179.94 (inc VAT) they really are taking the mickey, but I guess they must be selling them to someone!!!!
 

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Just seen this new arrival at Cousins:

https://www.cousinsuk.com/catalog/6/0/1305/6247.aspx?code=R38673#select

It's a Bergeon spring bar tool "for bracelets with spring bars, including Rolex". Now, in the past 20 odd years I've never, ever, had a problem removing spring bars in seconds with either a 1mm-ish screwdriver or a simple forked bar tool.

So why on earth would I pay out on this thing? At a price of £179.94 (inc VAT) they really are taking the mickey, but I guess they must be selling them to someone!!!!
It's like snap-on tools to a mechanic. There is no way a 10mm 1/4 drive socket is worth $50 but people buy them none the less. I buy secondhand swiss tweasers and bergeon screw driver blades but that's it! I did buy a brand new bergeon movement holder the other week and it's no better than my cheap one from china! In fact I prefer the chinese one!
 

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I must admit, I like the small Bergeon holder I've got - the edges are a little "sharper" than the chinese ones, which I also use. The better defined edges do help on small (5 or 6 ligne ladies) movements.

Bergeon blades in cheaper handles are defintitely the way to go for screwdrivers, and Dumont tweezers are better than the alternatives. Although I used to have some Precista ones that were right up there at about 1/3 of the price - can't find a supplier for them any more :(

But this thing is not only stupidly priced, it's addressin a eed that doesn't even exist! And it only works between 10mm and 20mm whereas my trusty Anchor brand "strap screwdriver" works from 6mm all the way up to 40mm+ :D
 

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Ah see that's the advantage of being in the trade aka clocks. I get to buy nice bergeon sets of screw drivers for tenners and such off mates who clear out workshops :rolleyes:

 

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It puzzles me... I get the monthly leaflets from Cousins and they often have bits of equipment costing thousands or tens of thousands - who buys this stuff? To fully equip a repair shop with this high end equipment would have a total outlay cost of hundreds of thousands, surely this would only be cost effective for a few large national service centers? and I bet they don't order from a Cousins mailshot?? Is there really that much money to be made servicing watches?
 

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It puzzles me... I get the monthly leaflets from Cousins and they often have bits of equipment costing thousands or tens of thousands - who buys this stuff? To fully equip a repair shop with this high end equipment would have a total outlay cost of hundreds of thousands, surely this would only be cost effective for a few large national service centers? and I bet they don't order from a Cousins mailshot?? Is there really that much money to be made servicing watches?
Guys who charge £500 to service you watch that's who buys it! Most of my stuff is secondhand. I buy the occasional new tool but never anything super expensive. Where as I have a friend who's watch lathe alone cost over £35,000 :eek:
 

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It puzzles me... I get the monthly leaflets from Cousins and they often have bits of equipment costing thousands or tens of thousands - who buys this stuff? To fully equip a repair shop with this high end equipment would have a total outlay cost of hundreds of thousands, surely this would only be cost effective for a few large national service centers? and I bet they don't order from a Cousins mailshot?? Is there really that much money to be made servicing watches?

There can be if you make a name as a specialist indie in the Omega + range and target the "second owner but still too new to abuse" market. They tend to want to keep them serviced but don't feel quite such a tie to the makers' service network as the firt owners do

Most of them don't bat an eyelid at being quoted £250 - £300 for a service on a basic automatic because it's still 25% (or more) less than the makers' service centres and (assuming you're getting the work in) you can comfortably average 2 -3 per day if your'e working on the same half a dozen movements all the time.

Watches of that quality and age rarely need parts, and you quote extra for parts anyway. Oils and cleaniing fluids are cheap enough "per watch" and, by specialising, you also don't need to worry about carrying parts stock for the 500 zillion models that might cross your bench otherwise.

So, 5 watches a week will give you a gross annual income of around £50k for 2 days a week (boring and repetetive) work. Do another one a week to cover your overheads on a small workshop and your'e laughing all the way to the bank.

Of course, it doesn't work out quite that easily in practice, but it gives you an idea of the money that's potentially available to be made!
 

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Just seen this new arrival at Cousins:

https://www.cousinsuk.com/catalog/6/0/1305/6247.aspx?code=R38673#select

It's a Bergeon spring bar tool "for bracelets with spring bars, including Rolex". Now, in the past 20 odd years I've never, ever, had a problem removing spring bars in seconds with either a 1mm-ish screwdriver or a simple forked bar tool.

So why on earth would I pay out on this thing? At a price of £179.94 (inc VAT) they really are taking the mickey, but I guess they must be selling them to someone!!!!
Actually it works great on some super tight fitting bracelet's that it is next to impossible to get a fork tool in. There is a cheapier version out there on the net for around 50-75.:08:
 

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I've ordered two so I'll let you know how I get on ;)

I must say it looks nice but I'm damned if I can figure out how you'd even use it!
 

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Just seen this new arrival at Cousins:

https://www.cousinsuk.com/catalog/6/0/1305/6247.aspx?code=R38673#select

It's a Bergeon spring bar tool "for bracelets with spring bars, including Rolex". Now, in the past 20 odd years I've never, ever, had a problem removing spring bars in seconds with either a 1mm-ish screwdriver or a simple forked bar tool.

So why on earth would I pay out on this thing? At a price of £179.94 (inc VAT) they really are taking the mickey, but I guess they must be selling them to someone!!!!



None dare say tools like this are pretentious :eek:
The guy who works at the bench all day won't appreciate i, the customers will never see it and the boss would rather put his money into the new pool or motorboat (not you and me of course Joe:))

I've never met a springbar I couldn't get out with a range of screwdrivers or a large screwdriver in the middle of it and break it out :grin:
 
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