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Suppose an individual on a forum (or maybe in person) was celebrating the object of his/her latest trade/purchase which is a restored vintage watch and states that it has all original parts. One look and you can identify several obvious aftermarket parts.

Would you point out their error publicly on the same forum, send them a personal PM, or let them enjoy their new watch in ignorance? Any other options?
 

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I understand you ,completely. I'm seeing this more and more myself.

I guess I would send a PM to let the person know, so it does end up on the sales forum and he has to learn it there.

I know we are not suppose to reply to sales posts, but I would like to see some function in place to "out" the AM parts that are never mentioned in the sale ads.

More and more of that too.

Just my opinion.
 

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Private PM, this has happened to me (and still may...) on a couple of occasions and I am always entirely appreciative. As mentioned, it also allows for future full disclosure on the watch...
 

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Anyone in the same position would appreciate a sensitively worded PM, and sooner rather than later.

There's probably 20 guys on the forum dreading an incoming PM from you now ;D
 

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A personal PM is the way to go. If after that the missing disclosures continue, then the mods need to be involved.

There is enough information on this and other forums that nobody needs to be stiffed and nobody needs to omit info through ignorance. Unfortunately sellers and buyers alike; all too often; don't do the research before doing their transactions :(
 

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catflem said:
Anyone in the same position would appreciate a sensitively worded PM, and sooner rather than later.

There's probably 20 guys on the forum dreading an incoming PM from you now ;D
LOL...not this forum!
 

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I am with Mike Mounce on this .

when someone is showcasing their new watch, its nice to send a gentle PM
In person - It's even gentler, and its nice to do.

However some members might not care or want any info.

as for sales , it gets a little more complicated.
its hard to tell who should know better, or care about their listings
how do you implement that...
I can expand on that.

I have been doing this for a few short years, and I have to sit on my hands
when I see listings for watches that 'all original' yet have 'new'
dials, hands bezel inserts etc.


If you want to see a place that tolerates no monkey business- is MWR
their membership is quite expert and expedient to point out questionable sales.
 

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LOL...not this forum!
Now you've REALLY got me worried :eek:

I've just managed to grab something which I think is rather special on another forum. Its not a particularly sought after watch, but it does have its fans, it dates from 1969, comes with the original box, hang tag, instructions, guarantee and most importantly as far as I'm concerned - the original Japanese receipt :-X .

All will be revealed IDC, but it needs a slight tidy up before its revealed.

If anyone happens to have a 330W16GN00 crystal, it will help to bring the reveal forward by a week or 2 ;)

Edit - just re-read you're original post, the one I've grabbed has not been restored, so thats made my day.
 

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Seems the PM is the way to go which is what I did. I also sent some resource information so it is not just my word.

This particular example deals with the showcasing of a new watch from a non-Seiko fanantic in a non-Seiko dominated forum. The guy was clearly happy with his watch and being a non-Seiko fan, I didn't want to leave a sour taste for him with his Seiko experience, but at the same time, if he bought or traded for it, he should know.
 

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mmounce said:
I know we are not suppose to reply to sales posts, but I would like to see some function in place to "out" the AM parts that are never mentioned in the sale ads.

More and more of that too.

Just my opinion.
You can reply to sales posts using pm or email but also copy your pm to a mod so that we are alerted to the "problem", it is very easy for one of us to miss a detail that maybe gets noticed by some one with more experience.
 

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"A question of conscious"
Or, of conscience, even..... ;)

In years past on the SCWF, there hasn't been much problem just posting about non-original parts, as long as the tone is helpful and not overly critical. The owner might be a bit disappointed, but as mentioned above, it's better to know ahead of time than to find out when you post your incorrect "all original" watch on a sales forum, which might seem suspicious.

Paul
 

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nhoJ said:
Lol....oops.....good enough for the internet.... :)

where on second ave are you enjoying vindaloo?????
are you in NYC?
 

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I believe most of us would kindly appreciate a pm of some sort. I know for a fact, prior to buying my watches, that most of them have some kind of original replacement, forgery, or after market parts. I think it would be difficult, even for the most seasoned wis, to truly know for certain that a watch is all original. I suppose the definition of all original is subjective for most of us too. For example, if a case back o-ring/gasket was replaced at the ten year mark service, does that make the watch not all original? You see my point. There are a lot of wear parts in a watch that could need replacing throughout its life, thus making it not all original. Or does just using nos parts make it at least original manufacturer parts original, not having forgery or after market parts?
 

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So did the PM find itself OK?
 
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