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I have recently had a couple of customers watches come through my hands which, at least for one of them, had been described as "original + unmolested". A slight understatement to say the least. One thing to keep in mind is that some collectors focus on originality and some focus on cosmetics. So aftermarket parts are acceptable to some. Personally, I prefer original.
I'm all for a guide to help others out to know what to watch for and be able to spot the difference. The guide done by TY some years ago is informative but needs to be updated.

I'll start with this aftermarket dial: This fits a 6139-600X.

Two areas to check closely: The sub register indics don't come to the edge of the sub register ring and the lume on the dial indics is shiny and has a pronounced rounded edge. This edge is easy to spot on the 9 o'clock marker due to the reflection.

Now an Original dial:

Notice the sub register indics come to the edge of the sub dial register ring. The edge of the lume is harder to see but it is not shiny and has a sharper edge.

Here's another example of an aftermarket dial for a 6139-601X

This one's easy to spot. It has no frame around the day-date window and the color is a little off. One thing to consider is that some other 6139's don't have a frame around the date window but all 6139-601X's do.

This is an original dial:

Note the frame around the Day-Date window and the deeper blue color.

Hopefully this will help some of you spot the differences between aftermarket and original when it's a concern.
 

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Thanks, great to see this sort of post. While I have no objection to an aftermarket dial on a cheap 'wearer', it's good to be able to be able to see what is correct on an original watch. :cool:
 

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Nice post!, very useful for us less informed.
I noticed also that the Suwa symbol is very poorly reproduced on the copy dials.
 

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Nice post!, very useful for us less informed.
I noticed also that the Suwa symbol is very poorly reproduced on the copy dials.
Thanks! and that's a good point about the Suwa symbol.
 

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It never seizes to amaze and confound me how near they get to being very good but fail on the little points, you would think if they can get so near why don't they go the extra yard and get it almost 100% ?
 

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Great post SP2 this was my first real watch. I purchased it in Pittsburgh in July 1969 for $69.00. I used my graduation money and i wanted a good time piece and Seiko was unknown to me then so I took a chance. I wore that watch for about ten years then gave it to my brother. Thanks for the blast from the past. Regards, JT.
 

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Nice post, would be great to get a pictorial comparison list together so we can all see repro to gen, apperently the hands on my 6105-8110 are not original!! Don't know what the tell is but that's what I've been told. I guess seikos ate up there with rep brietlings and Rolexs and all the other good names, but atleast you don't get called out wearing a seiko
 
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