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10-26-2018 08:52 PM
Blackadder Hi, friends! Thank you for very interesting information. But I have two questions. 1. Did the kanji/eng days were only with domestic dial or it could were in export dial? 2. The case was only satin (unpolished) or may be polished? I have 0012 with eng/arabic days and polished case is it correct?
07-21-2018 12:46 PM
rfortson Just to follow up on the service. Either the guy replaced the main spring or it was not used much. Power reserve is well over 40 hours, which is amazing.

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07-17-2018 04:15 PM
rfortson
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Originally Posted by Seiko Hoarder View Post
Replacing a watch's crystal with an aftermarket one is generally considered acceptable and does not hurt the watch's value. Replacing the hands can be more problematic. It's not uncommon for a seconds hand to bend. The best remedy would be for your watchmaker to straighten it back out. A faded red or yellow seconds hand can be renewed with a colored Sharpie marker. If you do choose to use a new aftermarket seconds hand, no one will probably ever notice.
Thanks. I bought an AM crystal but everything else was salvageable. He did a great job straightening the second hand and there's only the slightest bit of yellow missing. All in all, looks great and I'm in for a little less than the "recently serviced " one go for on Ebay. And I know this was serviced with a guarantee.

From February 1971



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07-14-2018 06:15 PM
cwillie Agree that this is a great thread. The 6138 has not been on my radar, but the power of your words and pictures have led me to think that I need to put it on my rapidly growing list of Seiko targets.
07-14-2018 04:38 PM
andjo Thanks for this great thread.
I got my 6138-0010 a while ago and it took me a while to restore it. The hardest part was getting a nice matching bracelet.
It is a JDM proof/proof from October 1970 and has the two piece sweep second hand.
Greetings
07-12-2018 10:27 PM
Seiko Hoarder Replacing a watch's crystal with an aftermarket one is generally considered acceptable and does not hurt the watch's value. Replacing the hands can be more problematic. It's not uncommon for a seconds hand to bend. The best remedy would be for your watchmaker to straighten it back out. A faded red or yellow seconds hand can be renewed with a colored Sharpie marker. If you do choose to use a new aftermarket seconds hand, no one will probably ever notice.
07-12-2018 06:03 PM
rfortson This is a great thread! I found one in need of repair (and I have a guy that does good work for a great price) so I took a chance. In general, it looks like it just needs a good cleaning and service, but the second hand is actually bent at the tip (at a ~20 degree angle?). I shudder to think how it got like that, but I'm confident I can get it sorted out.

In case I can't, how hard is it to find a replacement hand? Are the AM parts okay? I'm not stickler for all original parts, but I like to get the proper replacement if I can. I'm already planning for an AM crystal as the original is badly scratched.
06-24-2018 09:24 AM
TheSeikologist I forgot about this excellent post! Thank you for this! Wealth of information regarding this famous and probably one of the highly sought after Seiko models. Besides the Pogues and Pandas. I started with one and ended up with 4 !!!


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06-22-2018 08:05 PM
3366carlos
Good post. How accurate is a well taken care of 6138?

+- 5 sec/day? I started my search for one. Thanks.
06-03-2018 11:09 AM
[email protected] And lot of dial/hand version, very fun
06-03-2018 11:09 AM
[email protected] Thank's for this complet review, this chrono is awesome of a cool period!
maybe my next hunt
05-11-2018 08:47 PM
Seiko Hoarder I'm glad you liked it Rebola76. I put it together as a resource for future collectors.

I finally picked up my 6138-0019 from 1970 from service today.

05-11-2018 06:05 PM
Rebola76 i think Seiko chronograph are amazing...
04-19-2018 12:42 AM
Seiko Hoarder I bumped into this ad tonight. I'd never seen it before.

At one point during the mock interview, the watch asks, "When do I get to meet the centerfold?" implying that it was perhaps published in Playboy Magazine.

It would be nice to get a higher resolution image.

03-28-2018 10:52 PM
trashpanda6459 Absolutely fantastic post/review! Although I have seen original 6138-0019 models with an orange second hand. Where did you discover that only yellow was used? Very impressive and informative post. Thanks you.
03-03-2018 07:37 PM
60clicks Just chiming in with similar sentiments as above. Great post, very informative.. after 40+ years or so you'd think everything had already been written about these icons from Seiko but as is clear from this thread there's still much to be learned and shared.
03-03-2018 06:14 PM
vinylgreek Thank you for an engaging post, especially your philosophy of what defines a dad watch. Out of curiosity what part of SoCal do you call home?
03-03-2018 04:46 PM
imexian Great post, one of my brats I’ve got a mech citizen he wears, so maybe he will appreciate the watches I have when I vacate this mortal coil!
I hope!
03-03-2018 03:54 PM
mncz Dude, this thread is freaking awesome. Congratulations on the beautiful new acquisition. You deserve it!
12-29-2017 08:07 PM
Seiko Hoarder My very own 6138-0019 UFO "dad watch" arrived today.



It had scratches on the crystal, DNA under the bezel, the correct yellow sweep hand, intact (unpolished) brushing on the case...



and sticky pushers.




From what I've seen of other examples on line, the -0019 was only made in 1970.



I took it to Mr. Thai, my watch guy (chronographs are way above my current skill level). The caseback had to be wrenched off with his large "cheese press" removal tool. When opened, there were no watchmaker's repair marks on the inside of the caseback, so this may have been the first time the watch had any work done on it since 1970 when it was made!

He cleaned up the pushers, put silicone on the gaskets, tightened some screws, and put on the reproduction bracelet I had ordered from Seikosis (his last one) all for which he only charged my 10 bucks. He'll make plenty of profit from me in February when I've scheduled an overhaul.

Just with that tiny bit of maintenance its working well, the chrono functions smoothly. It'll be like new once Mr. Thai spends a couple of hours with it this February.
12-28-2017 09:02 AM
Seiko Hoarder
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Originally Posted by uncleluck View Post
The 0014 is JDM too AFAIK. I found reference to it when I was searching for info on my 0012 (which there is hardly any evidence of out there) same kanji day wheel with no lume on dial or hands. Someone on WUS mentions their 0014 and there’s also a thread on here where someone is searching for a bracelet for one(maybe pm them for info)


Funny thing about mine is, I had no idea the 0012/0014 existed and from the pics before I got it (very cheap too) I assumed the dial lume had been removed and the indices painted and the hands were fakes. It arrived & I wore it for a bit but just the patina and the typical chrono reset damage to the hand had me thinking they were original also the indice’s white painted finish was so perfect I knew if someone was going to do that as a mod it’d have been terrible.

Luckily I did some more research and it was clear from other pics the 0012/14 comes with solid hands and no lume!

Might be worth writing in the ‘late JDM dial’ bit that these dials do not have lume but the markers are painted white.
Thank you again. I have tracked down the posts you mentioned (and some others as well) and updated the information.

I'm sure that there are more mistakes. I invite anyone to please question my information.

Thanks
12-28-2017 04:40 AM
Reflex Very useful post - thank you. Part of why I joined this forum.

Bought mine early this year and enjoying it

12-28-2017 03:42 AM
uncleluck
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Originally Posted by Seiko Hoarder View Post
Thank you for the information on the 6138-0012 JDM. I have updated the information. I'd be great if you could post some pics.

I was unable to verify the existence of the 0014 JDM however.

Thanks,

John
The 0014 is JDM too AFAIK. I found reference to it when I was searching for info on my 0012 (which there is hardly any evidence of out there) same kanji day wheel with no lume on dial or hands. Someone on WUS mentions their 0014 and there’s also a thread on here where someone is searching for a bracelet for one(maybe pm them for info)


Funny thing about mine is, I had no idea the 0012/0014 existed and from the pics before I got it (very cheap too) I assumed the dial lume had been removed and the indices painted and the hands were fakes. It arrived & I wore it for a bit but just the patina and the typical chrono reset damage to the hand had me thinking they were original also the indice’s white painted finish was so perfect I knew if someone was going to do that as a mod it’d have been terrible.

Luckily I did some more research and it was clear from other pics the 0012/14 comes with solid hands and no lume!

Might be worth writing in the ‘late JDM dial’ bit that these dials do not have lume but the markers are painted white.
12-28-2017 03:16 AM
TheSeikologist What an excellent post !! Thank you, mate!! [emoji119] Beautiful timepiece!! [emoji108][emoji482]


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12-27-2017 07:07 PM
Seiko Hoarder
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Originally Posted by uncleluck View Post
I have one everyone seems to overlook in these threads...


6138-0012 JDM (believe there is also a 0014 JDM)

Mine is a lot later (and I think they made them up to 1979 at least) than the usual ROW 0011 models being a 1977 (my birth year)

The 012 also has a kanji day wheel but the most interesting this for me is the dial. Has the speedtimer logo under Seiko logo (printed like the 5 sports models) but just Seiko and speedtimer. The hour markers are also plain white without lume and the hands are solid white with no lume.
Thank you for the information on the 6138-0012 JDM. I have updated the information. I'd be great if you could post some pics.

I was unable to verify the existence of the 0014 JDM however.

Thanks,

John
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