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08-08-2019 07:51 AM

SeikoPsycho2

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grammarofdesign

Tom your 4 NOS Suwa dials in that photo are worth a lot !

But not $3,000 = 4 x $750-ish per 6309 using John's price guide !

We must have been posting milly seconds apart.

I would never consider the crystals to be worth $750 or anywhere near that but I can say I wouldn't even consider paying $750 for a pristine 6309 either.

The Poor O'l Boys are getting priced right out of this hobby! I remember my first 6309: $85, sure it had a aftermarket dial, but still? Replacement "used dial" at the time +$35

08-07-2019 09:11 PM

Grammarofdesign

Well, any 6309 selling under $200 is a special case, i.e. not in good shape somehow.

Anyway not to beat a dead horse I'll stop myself. Point taken and hopefully point made.

This is all Larry's fault.

08-07-2019 08:55 PM

TheTigerUK

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grammarofdesign

Tiger, If the subject is a 6309 diver, I stand by my position that you're not going to get as much for an NOS dial as a whole watch (unless of course said comparative watch is a ship wreck.)

And your offer to me on my NOS dial today proved that.

Well if you sold it for $200 Jon as you hoped for then I bet theres a few guys on here who have bought whole 6309s for that amount or less this year ?

I started the bidding at $100 and i've bought a few 6309 dogs for less than that which often needed a dial, NOS one even

08-07-2019 08:46 PM

SeikoPsycho2

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grammarofdesign

If the subject is a 6309 diver, I stand by my position that you're not going to get as much for an NOS dial as a whole watch (unless of course said comparative watch is a ship wreck.)

And your offer to me on my NOS dial today proved that.

I would have to assume your talking to John??

You did pretty well on the one you sold Jon. At least the waters have been tested and I didn't even have to get my feet wet.........

08-07-2019 08:46 PM

Grammarofdesign

Quote:

Originally Posted by SeikoPsycho2

I guess that would boil down to who wants it, how bad they want it, and if it was for a special watch with sentimental value..............

Tom your 4 NOS Suwa dials in that photo are worth a lot !

But not $3,000 = 4 x $750-ish per 6309 using John's price guide !

08-07-2019 08:44 PM

Grammarofdesign

08-07-2019 08:21 PM

SeikoPsycho2

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grammarofdesign

Not sure that statement holds up mathematically.

I guess that would boil down to who wants it, how bad they want it, and if it was for a special watch with sentimental value..............

08-07-2019 05:02 PM

TheTigerUK

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grammarofdesign

Not sure that statement holds up mathematically.

Depends how much the watch is Jon, i've bought them for $10, $50 and upwards

08-07-2019 04:52 PM

Grammarofdesign

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheTigerUK

Very nice Tom, I bet a NOS OEM dial is worth almost as much as a complete watch

Not sure that statement holds up mathematically.

08-07-2019 03:53 PM

SeikoPsycho2

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thesharkman

you're killin' me tom...LOL. =\

<* shark >>><

Hey, we're Buddies and your holding that Sunrise for me............

08-07-2019 02:14 PM

Thesharkman

Quote:

Originally Posted by SeikoPsycho2

Larry,
As you probably know, I've been collecting Seiko parts for over 10 years. Ever since a Wise "old" WIS mentioned "It's all about Spares"....

I search for parts on a daily basis. I will have to say I haven't seen many nos 6309-704x dials come up for sale. They are few and far between but they can be found.

you're killin' me tom...LOL. =\

<* shark >>><

08-07-2019 02:13 PM

Thesharkman

Quote:

Originally Posted by seikozen

Hi about 12 years ago I was able to source this dial from Pete K in AU a Seiko parts Rep for many years in Half of AU also a Great watchmaker.

that's the sort of dial i am referring to. i'll just have to look harder i guess!

<* shark >>><

08-07-2019 09:39 AM

SeikoPsycho2

Quote:

Originally Posted by GuyJ

They look great....

Thanks Guy!

08-07-2019 09:38 AM

SeikoPsycho2

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheTigerUK

Very nice Tom, I bet a NOS OEM dial is worth almost as much as a complete watch

I don't know John, but you could be right. These are all Suwu dials which seem to be more sought after. Since prices have been soaring on Seiko dive watches here lately, my though was to restore some modded 6309's I have on hand.

08-07-2019 09:26 AM

GuyJ

They look great....

08-07-2019 08:50 AM

TheTigerUK

Quote:

Originally Posted by SeikoPsycho2

Larry,
As you probably know, I've been collecting Seiko parts for over 10 years. Ever since a Wise "old" WIS mentioned "It's all about Spares"....

I search for parts on a daily basis. I will have to say I haven't seen many nos 6309-704x dials come up for sale. They are few and far between but they can be found.

Very nice Tom, I bet a NOS OEM dial is worth almost as much as a complete watch

08-07-2019 07:56 AM

SeikoPsycho2

Larry,
As you probably know, I've been collecting Seiko parts for over 10 years. Ever since a Wise "old" WIS mentioned "It's all about Spares"....

I search for parts on a daily basis. I will have to say I haven't seen many nos 6309-704x dials come up for sale. They are few and far between but they can be found.

08-07-2019 05:18 AM

GuyJ

Thanks for sharing the pictures seikozen. Nice!

08-07-2019 04:08 AM

TheTigerUK

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thesharkman

i know that the the 6309s have been long discontinued. often times i've seen NOS hand sets as well as bezel inserts among the many parts i've tried to find, but i've never seen a service dial for sale. were there no dials that seiko had available to fit onto a watch that they may have serviced to go along with all the NOS hand sets that i've seen floating around after the end of the run? these dials would have strong or better than normal lume strength than originally fitted 6309 dials of course.

just wondering aloud.....

<* shark >>><

As far as I know OEM bezel inserts where never sold only complete bezels ?

08-06-2019 11:48 PM

seikozen

Some Used 6309 Dials

I have been saving these dials for a while, really have not needed any yet, luckily the 6309 collection I have all are with good dials/and hands But I have OEM Cases, & NOS Mvts So I have held on to them Thinking they would be needed to Finish the 6309s. Im not sure I can source the Rest of the Parts ? so they stay for now.

08-06-2019 11:41 PM

seikozen

OEM 6309-704x hands

These are as far as I can tell OEM hands They were always with a Full set Flat Min hand and Proper Full bodied sec hands Unlike the NOS 6309 dials I have were the Lime is Bright but Dies quickly as Guy described These hands have a Lume that lasts but not that long. Very Nice I was just talking to JB about a NOS 6309 Sec hand he sent me LONG time ago She is still in her little box SAVED

08-06-2019 11:29 PM

seikozen

NOS 6309-7040 Dial In Seiko Case

Hi about 12 years ago I was able to source this dial from Pete K in AU a Seiko parts Rep for many years in Half of AU also a Great watchmaker.

08-06-2019 10:08 PM

borgsauce

Quote:

Originally Posted by Katgirl

You can probably find a correct used dial, if you search for several days.

I've been at it for several months now looking for a decent used dial..and all I've been getting, resembles very little of what it use to be. I think I need to expand my search parameters.

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08-06-2019 09:28 PM

Katgirl

I have noticed that on eBay there are only after-market dials from the Philippines or used dials, most of which are non-beveled. You can probably find a correct used dial, if you search for several days. Good luck.

Kat

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08-06-2019 08:56 PM

GuyJ

I've had two packaged NOS dials, one not so NOS but still great. One HK dial and the other Suwa iirc. Both didn't have much lume energy left, but the HK 6309 I wear and the later MT dial I had (and hope to buy back soon) have still quite bright lume (dies very quick tho). Possibly the packaged ones, or at least one, were used on a watch and maybe swapped out. Or just were earlier examples and so behaved as you might expect.

I'm sceptical the NOS handsets are not just 7S26 handsets that have had the same part numbers as original 6309 handsets for whatever reason. All glow like an SKX. None of them are "flat" but more rounded, where some 6309s have a more 7548 type look to the hands. I've never seen a set of hands for the 6309 or 6306 in packets like say a 6105 seconds hand would be in...and surely they would have been similarly packed? Not like the more modern looking blister packs they come in.

Rotating rings I've had a few and they match up as you would expect and have the packaging to go with it. Except there was a re-release of the 6309 rotating ring in a white packet and it had more of a 7002 type of machining to the outside, but it fit the 6309 and had the same part number.

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