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Old 09-29-2014, 08:24 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Bergeon spring bar remover #3153 review. Something a bit different

I come from a family of mechanics (I was the exception). What I did learn from my brothers and father is not to waste time and money with cheap tools. They never do the job properly and will eventually let you down. For that reason I've always tried to buy high quality tools.
I also tend to buy from the sole remaining watch supply store here in Sydney for two reasons: the guy deserves some support (he gave me some old Swiss movement for free to practice on. You won't get that ordering tools on auction sites), and because of the advice you can get when you buy the tool, which is invaluable and can save you a lot of problems.

My most recent purchase is a Bergeon spring bar remover #3153. I thought I would post a quick review of it. I wanted the proper tool for doing this job as I was using toothpicks to change straps.

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Bergeon needs no introduction. They are high quality Swiss made tools.

This tool has a pin end for pushing out pins:
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And the other end is like a flat screwdriver with a notch cut out. This is for spring bars. You can see in the second pic how one side is a greater angle than the other side.
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The body is resin, and has a handy ruler in mm and inches printed in white.
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Overall, a simple tool that is designed to do one job well. When using it, I found that I still had to be very careful not to scratch the lugs. Although it makes spring bar removal easier, there is still some skill required. With some more practice I'm sure this will become easier.

That's about it. Thank you for reading.
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I have always used a .......... " EXACTO " razor knife.
Simply because it gets right against the case and
being that it is ....
" Flat it won't scratch or Gouge " the case.
It never failed me all this time.
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I come from a family of mechanics (I was the exception). What I did learn from my brothers and father is not to waste time and money with cheap tools. They never do the job properly and will eventually let you down. For that reason I've always tried to buy high quality tools.
I also tend to buy from the sole remaining watch supply store here in Sydney for two reasons: the guy deserves some support (he gave me some old Swiss movement for free to practice on. You won't get that ordering tools on auction sites), and because of the advice you can get when you buy the tool, which is invaluable and can save you a lot of problems.

My most recent purchase is a Bergeon spring bar remover #3153. I thought I would post a quick review of it. I wanted the proper tool for doing this job as I was using toothpicks to change straps.

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Bergeon needs no introduction. They are high quality Swiss made tools.

This tool has a pin end for pushing out pins:
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And the other end is like a flat screwdriver with a notch cut out. This is for spring bars. You can see in the second pic how one side is a greater angle than the other side.
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The body is resin, and has a handy ruler in mm and inches printed in white.
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Overall, a simple tool that is designed to do one job well. When using it, I found that I still had to be very careful not to scratch the lugs. Although it makes spring bar removal easier, there is still some skill required. With some more practice I'm sure this will become easier.

That's about it. Thank you for reading.
With that paean to your strap tool your father and brothers may have some hope for you yet
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Thanks mate. I've decided to do a whole series of reviews on tools. I will use all the current terminology common to puff pieces.. sorry - reviews on major watch review sites. Let's see how much I can talk up a parts tray...
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The Bergeon spring bar remover is tops, if you use it a lot, it's worth picking up one or two spare notched ends (there replaceable). They sometimes break off trying to remove a stuck spring bar.
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My tool from Amazon broke, not because it was cheap, rather because the last idiot (not me) to replace the spring bars used bars that were 20mm long for the length of the tube into a 20mm opening, and once the ends were depressed and seated in the pin holes, there was no visible portion of the pin to pry on. Eventually snapped the little fork completely off before I realized what was wrong. A quick twist with needle nose pliers carefully placed in the ends caused enough bend in the center of the tube to remove the now useless spring bar(s) (both sides). But.....some side wheel grinding on a 1" Dremel grinding disc restored the tool, sans the "v" slot.

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well i totally agree as i was a A level mechanic for years...you can not do the job right without the right tool and you can actually damage what you are working on without it....great review...God Bless John
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That looks very interesting. I use dental floss because it doesn't scratch the case, it's always somewhere close and it works even with stuck pins, but this tool looks much better. I'll give it some though.
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This tool is the best. I am using it as well and will last for ages.
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I just picked one of these up after a year of using a cheap-o tool from amazon. Clearly going to last me much much longer, although I must say that the wider tip does make it difficult to get into some of the tighter solid end-links. Perhaps a narrower replacement tip is in my future...
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need to get one, make everything easier
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Default Bergeon spring bar remover #3153 review. Something a bit different

Hi, That is a nice tool. I also have had something similar in the past, but currently I am usung the pictured 3 simple tools.
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1. has 0,95mm in diameter, so good for cases with holes to the spring bar
2. has 1,35mm in diameter, good for bracelets
3. is simple good for straps
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Hi I'm looking to buy a good Bergeon springbar tool.
I was looking at the Bergeon 6767-S or 6767-F.
They have two sizes of forked ends:
S for standard = 3mm tip
F for fine = 1mm tip
3mm seems sort of large for getting in between bracelet endlinks, but 1mm seems really tiny for "fat" spring bars.
Anyone have any experience with using either on Seiko or Citizen dive watches? I'm leaning toward the "S" but looking for opinions first.
Thanks!
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I bought a 6111 and have the spare fine and standard ends, which you can buy separately for little money. Best of both worlds.
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Thank you Guy,
I visited the Bergeon site, a dangerous thing to do...so many nice tools!
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Search around for the best price on what you're looking at.
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