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Old 11-02-2019, 03:24 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Project Restoration/Build - 1971 Seiko 6139-6002 Resist Pogue Chrono Mat Blue Dial

A fellow forum member Steve SPE777 asked me to overhaul and restore his 71 6139 Pogue. The watch had its challenges. Besides not running, the sub dial minute hand was floating inside the watch case and the sweep hand just swung around freely, day wheel misaligned. Note the picture before starting the teardown. I would have to say this piece was pretty much a wreck with cosmetic potential.

Troubleshooting found broken upper pivot on the third wheel and the reset lever pin floating around down in the gear train. Amazing that small pin did not destroy the train of gears. Also found all the bridge screws loose. Day wheel was misaligned and would not advance with the quick set.

Replace the 3rd wheel, re-staked the pin to the chrono reset lever, sourced a new day wheel and staked and aligned the gear to the day wheel. Numbers were not great on this watch as it exhibited a lot of wear, but overall acceptable and it should be a good runner and keep decent time. The balance has a very slight wobble on plane but we left it alone.

Beautiful piece with mat dark blue dial. With unlimited funds, I would have recommended replacement of the balance, and jeweling the upper and lower arbor ports which would improve the numbers. I hope Steve will be pleased. Thanks for looking.
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Final outcome.
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Excellent work John


I'd be very happy with that.


It's incredibly unlikely to get a classic watch to be perfect - even doing all the right things with the parts in good condition.



Just like it would be incredibly unlikely to see a perfect early '70s Coke bottle 'Vette!
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Old 11-02-2019, 07:20 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Great work. That's was one real basket case but a beauty.

I have just done a 6138 with uncannily similar problems. Third wheel top pivot gone, missing hour counter reset lever stop pin, funky balance wheel and barrel arbor that wasn't latching on the mainspring. A real time sink.

I have come across a few broken third wheel pivots in 6139/6138, not sure how common it is.
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Thanks Kwan and Paul. Time sink is an understatement with this watch. I tried three different balance wheel and hairspring combos before resorting back to the original balance wheel and hairspring. Probably spent 3 -4 hours alone on that issue. Never got as good numbers with the others as the original.
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I enjoy these progress threads a lot. Fun to watch the transformations. Thanks for taking the time to post up ....
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Time sink is an understatement with this watch. . Probably spent 3 -4 hours alone on that issue.

Ahh, the time involved with attempts to solve an issue.......


Nice work John!


On a side note, with wear on the upper barrel bushing, in the absence of a jewel replacement, if you'll look closely at the inner surface of the bushing you'll notice the wear is only on the "pressure" side of the bushing. This bushing can be pressed out and rotated 180 degrees to improve the alignment of the barrel.
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Ahh, the time involved with attempts to solve an issue.......


Nice work John!


On a side note, with wear on the upper barrel bushing, in the absence of a jewel replacement, if you'll look closely at the inner surface of the bushing you'll notice the wear is only on the "pressure" side of the bushing. This bushing can be pressed out and rotated 180 degrees to improve the alignment of the barrel.
Tom - Thanks. You mentioned this technique of rotating the upper bush 180 in a PM to me. I did that here on this watch and have done it on a few others. Thanks for the tip.
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Nice work as always John. We never know what we're in for until we get into a movement. Some days it's OMG! but we stick with it until we have a happy result. 🙂
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Nice work as always John. We never know what we're in for until we get into a movement. Some days it's OMG! but we stick with it until we have a happy result. 🙂
Yeah Jerry, this one tried my patience a bit but I was happy with the result in the end and I think the owner is happy as well. Really cool looking piece.
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Great learning opportunities here- thank you for posting!


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Wrist shot from Steve. Looks amazing. What a cool piece.
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Another Beauty back in service! Nice work!
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Well done. Thats's a lovely looking watch for sure.
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Thanks for the compliments fellas. Never seen a Mat Blue dial like the one on this piece before. Thought it was fairly unique.
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