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Old 10-10-2019, 09:31 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I have a 6309 that I had purchased and had a 7548 movement put in so I wouldn't have to worry about winding, accuracy ect. I don't remember if the bezel EVER turned freely for me, and it sure didn't until..... yesterday. I had removed it and checked it to find that there was a rubber o-ring in place. I had read on here that possibly the o-ring had never been seated properly so that is why I popped it off at work and played with it a little.
I thought I would just check for freedom of movement of the bezel to see if there were any issues so I put it on the watch and noticed that it just snapped back on, and turned freely with positive clicks, sort of what you would want!
I'm thinking to myself that this can't be the case, it's not this simple. I inspected the area on the watch where I would think the o-ring would fit and there is a flat metal ring in the groove.
Did I miss something? I popped the bezel off at work again today, and it is positively held on the watch like when it has that o-ring in place (except it works as designed). I can't see any need for the o-ring on this sample. The flat metal ring seems to work just fine holding it on the watch.

I'm happy with it now. Am I wrong or did someone add that o-ring without checking for the metal ring?

And no I didn't loose the bb.
I lost that a couple years ago and just cut a bic pen.
I ordered some bbs but misplaced the envelope with them. Ugh. I'll run the bic bb until I can find the factory part... somewhere in the house.

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Old 10-11-2019, 12:19 AM   #2 (permalink)
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The crystal retaining ring holds the bezel on, the gaskets has nothing to do with that. The gasket keeps it steady and stops it slopping around.
It may be that the gasket was pinched or it may be that a slightly thicker gasket was put in at some point. You could apply some silicon grease to loser things up or just leave it without the gasket if you're happy with the action.


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There is a flat metal ring under the bezel insert, just about the same size as the insert. It's a friction ring so the bezel insert doesn't ride directly on the crystal retaining ring. The O ring keeps the bezel from slopping around and grinding on the retaining ring. Order a new O ring if yours is damaged. The O ring may have been partially out of the groove when you got it. Coat the O ring with silicon grease, not globs, just enough to to lubricate it. Put the O ring in the groove inside the bezel and put it in place, slowly turn the bezel and apply a little pressure to get it started, then press the bezel on. You should need a press to get it seated all the way down and it snaps on.

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The metal ring cannot be complete and must have a split to get it in the groove.

There's a lip on the bezel which engages with a turned feature on the case body to hold them together. Just wondering if that has worn to the extent it does not do its job so someone has added the metal ring to assist...somehow.

If they are not worn, as stated, the metal ring is non standard and should be removed...IMHO.

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The metal ring cannot be complete and must have a split to get it in the groove.

There's a lip on the bezel which engages with a turned feature on the case body to hold them together. Just wondering if that has worn to the extent it does not do its job so someone has added the metal ring to assist...somehow.

If they are not worn, as stated, the metal ring is non standard and should be removed...IMHO.

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Ya pretty sure the metal ring is factory. I'll recheck it at work if I get a break.

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Someone tried to add a click spring maybe? It shouldn't be there.
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Someone tried to add a click spring maybe? It shouldn't be there.
It's definitely not a click spring.

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Definite not a spring ring sorry. Def the rim to snap over. Cleaned everything and replaced the o-ring. Moves better but still tight. I'll grease it this weekend and see. I removed the bb to check and it's just tight as a mouse's ear.

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I have extra Crystal Retaining Rings for 6309/7548 All Seiko manufactured. If you need one let me know.
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I have extra Crystal Retaining Rings for 6309/7548 All Seiko manufactured. If you need one let me know.
Roger that. Thanks brother. Other than the bezel this watch is perfect for me. I really appreciate the other thing we are working on.

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A metal ring in the groove is not factory.

Is that an OEM bezel.

Has the case been refinished at some point.
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Please see my above post. The case has been refinished but at area is smooth. I don't believe that is the issue. But I was dead wrong about the ring also. LOL.

I believe the bezel to be original. Obviously the insert is not.

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To my eyes the case looks wrong ?
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I’m waiting for the tire iron 😀
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Could be a 7002 rotating ring.
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To my eyes the case looks wrong ?
Interested in this info. Looks to me like the groove intended for that o-ring.

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John I think part of that is reflection.
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Interested in this info. Looks to me like the groove intended for that o-ring.

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The bezel O ring sits higher up and locates against the crystal retaining ring I believe ?
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John I think part of that is reflection.
Could well be Don but just doesent seem right but then again I have never seen a wrong one so must be reflection or something.
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I'll take a better pick when I go to lube it this weekend.

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Its all here,

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Could we see a pic of the side of the rotating ring?
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Could we see a pic of the side of the rotating ring?
? Do you mean the bezel? Looks like my bezel original based on the diagram. The only o-ring appears to interface against the ring.

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Mitchell - When you removed the o-ring from the inside of the bezel, did it appear to be pinched or deformed in any way. I have found that it can be tough to keep the o-ring in the groove when snapping on the bezel and the gasket will get pinched. This creates a situation were the bezel will not want to rotate smoothly.
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? Do you mean the bezel? Looks like my bezel original based on the diagram. The only o-ring appears to interface against the ring.

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Ok....bezel...so it is a genuine 6309 bezel then and not a 7002 bezel? Anyway, sounds like you know it is so that is all I was asking.
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