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Old 08-28-2019, 08:53 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I need you help gang. Does this movement like it has been recently serviced to you? I can see some dirt on the rotor, the movement holder ring.... But I can also be way off with my thoughts about it.

So please let me know your thoughts, it’s the only pic of the movement I got. According to the seller the watch has been serviced who comes to his house when he has some spare time and does these things for him - quite a bit strange too. Will try to get some more movement shots, but till than please let me know what you see. Thanks folks.
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Old 08-28-2019, 09:01 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Unless you know the person(s) treat any watch purchased as requiring a service...regardless of what is said.
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Unless you know the person(s) treat any watch purchased as requiring a service...regardless of what is said.
Totally agree with you, but it says something about seller if he is trying to sell a watch as serviced that isn’t.
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Lots of grime, some minor corrosion. A poor service if it was done. I would consider it unserviced. That said the movement looks like its original, no stripping of the screw heads and very little brassing below the winding bridge. But as said above, I question the sellers integrity here or perhaps he has this watch confused with another.




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Oscillating weight should have been cleaned too...Case and clamp are rusty,it's a shame..if it was serviced.
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The only proof of service is either the timegrapher output or accompanying paperwork. Everything else is BS.
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Thanks everybody for chiming in. I agree with each and everyone of you. To me the whole thing looks just unserviced. Even if there would be some paperwork I would be in doubt. A fake certificate can be made within a few clicks... I got no answer from the seller regarding some more pics of the movement, so I consider this one as not really up my alley.
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If you can pick this watch up for the right price, there are sources to help you service the timepiece. Sometimes these are the best buys. Hidden untouched gems.
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Old 09-02-2019, 05:32 PM   #9 (permalink)
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"serviced" is a pretty nebulous / subjective term too.



Overhaul (the word 'complete' in front of it is superfluous) is what watch movements need.
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"serviced" is a pretty nebulous / subjective term too.



Overhaul (the word 'complete' in front of it is superfluous) is what watch movements need.
I remember you saying in a post once you have put a watch up for sale saying its serviced and then when it sells serviced it, could this perhaps be the case here ?
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I remember you saying in a post once you have put a watch up for sale saying its serviced and then when it sells serviced it, could this perhaps be the case here ?



It could be. They could be about to do it. Who's going to do it though?

A watchmaker (even a plonker like me) or ?



I always say "overhauled" - as in complete overhaul not "serviced" with mine
I always get mine so they look excellent and ready to go too so no gunk in the seal recess like this one etc.
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A little check with your local watchmaker never hurts !
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"serviced" is a pretty nebulous / subjective term too.



Overhaul (the word 'complete' in front of it is superfluous) is what watch movements need.
I agree 110%. When I 'service' a watch, the movement comes out, crystal is removed, as are any chrono pushers, the case is cleaned, the micro o-rings are cleaned, inspected, replaced if required, re-siliconed, same with the case back gasket. I normally replace the crystal, and pressure test. Of course the movement is given a cleaning as well, theoretically, it shouldn't need it. That watch looks like it hasn't been touched.

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A general assumption I make with any watch I purchase is that it will need service regardless of what the seller states in the ad. Having a good Time Grapher in your arsenal of tools even if you are just a collector is well worth the spend.
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A general assumption I make with any watch I purchase is that it will need service regardless of what the seller states in the ad. Having a good Time Grapher in your arsenal of tools even if you are just a collector is well worth the spend.


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I have seen watches advertised on eBay as being serviced. When pressed to give an accounting of the work done, the replies ranged from: "it was given a new caseback gasket" to " all gaskets were replaced and the movement lubed".

Dear heavens I wouldn't put it past some sellers to dip the whole watch in 10/40 with the caseback cover off ! I totally agree, it's not serviced until it's done by a reputable craftsman !
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I have seen watches advertised on eBay as being serviced. When pressed to give an accounting of the work done, the replies ranged from: "it was given a new caseback gasket" to " all gaskets were replaced and the movement lubed".

Dear heavens I wouldn't put it past some sellers to dip the whole watch in 10/40 with the caseback cover off ! I totally agree, it's not serviced until it's done by a reputable craftsman !
According to the web, that's ALMOST how you repair a faulty quartz movement, but I think you're supposed to use lighter fluid. I've opened a few that have reeked of lighter fluid and/or WD40.

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