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Old 06-25-2019, 08:37 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Oiling Techniques and Dynamic Lubriciation Of The Escapement

I ran across this vid from Perplxr and wanted to share. Thought it was a great video showing oiling technique and how to dynamically lubricate the escapement which I had only read about. Great to see how it is done in practice. I suspect you would need a high magnification bifocal microscope for the escapement lubrication. There are some great watchmaking videos on that channel. Enjoy

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Old 06-25-2019, 08:53 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Superb, Thanks for the Vid
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Cool video but I'm not that steady to stick anything in there while it's moving.
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Great vid, thanks for sharing as although I saw it when I first started tinkering I'd forgotten about it. Well worth another viewing.

What I hadn't paid attention to before is that he puts the arbour in the mainspring barrel before he puts the mainspring in. Am I the only one that puts in the MS and then its the arbour?
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I sometimes put the arbour in first. It is sometimes easier to place the coil around the arbor than the arbor into the coil. I normally get an idea of this when removing the arbor first off, as if it is really difficult to free I bear this in mind as it may be a hassle to reinstall once the ms is in.

Good video, I went through pretty much all the perplxr vids. Really helpful at times.
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I sometimes put the arbour in first. It is sometimes easier to place the coil around the arbor than the arbor into the coil. I normally get an idea of this when removing the arbor first off, as if it is really difficult to free I bear this in mind as it may be a hassle to reinstall once the ms is in.

Good video, I went through pretty much all the perplxr vids. Really helpful at times.
The cleaning machine he uses looks a bit tasty! And I can't quite tell on the dynamic escapement oiling, looks less viscous than the 9415 that I use? I'll have to check out the other vids, don't think I've seen those. Although is it the same people that did the hand refurbish and relume video? Quality of vid and pace seems similar. I'll go and check them out later.

*Edit: Yes, same one as the hands refurb video, which is also pretty damned awesome. Will be checking out the other vids too.

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Great video! I can tell that I’m going to waste a lot of time watching the rest of their stuff. My wife thanks you 😳
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Great video! I can tell that I’m going to waste a lot of time watching the rest of their stuff. My wife thanks you 😳
Too funny.
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Nice filming but that’s a hell of a lot of lubrication!
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Nice video. Looks like a super easy movement to work on compared to a 6139.
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Nice video. Looks like a super easy movement to work on compared to a 6139.
No doubt. I will disassemble a 6497. Although there is no way on this green Earth you would catch me trying that “dynamic lubrication” deal.

For me, the 6139 is strictly “send it to an expert.”
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Great vid, thanks for sharing as although I saw it when I first started tinkering I'd forgotten about it. Well worth another viewing.

What I hadn't paid attention to before is that he puts the arbour in the mainspring barrel before he puts the mainspring in. Am I the only one that puts in the MS and then its the arbour?





I and most sensible watchmakers would put the m/sp in before the arbor. Too much chance for the arbor to flick away otherwise and really small to try and find it again
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So one technique I picked up on in this video is how the watchmaker used a folded piece of watch paper to apply a thin coat of watch oil on the mainspring. I have started using this method on my most recent builds and I like it. Seems like hardly any lubrication at all being applied but maybe that is best. I also put a thin film of oil on the inside of the barrel and barrel lid and apply a small amount of braking grease to the outer wall of the barrel in 3 - 4 places before installing the spring.
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I use 8141 on a sheet of finely folded watchmakers paper and run the spring through that aswel. Never really liked the idea of just dropping a 2 or 3 blobs of oil on the surface.
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I use 8141 on a sheet of finely folded watchmakers paper and run the spring through that aswel. Never really liked the idea of just dropping a 2 or 3 blobs of oil on the surface.
Guy, prior to learning this technique, I was putting a dab of 8141 between my thumb and index finger and running the spring between my fingers. I like the watch paper technique better as it distributes less oil to the spring surface.
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