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Old 05-17-2019, 06:12 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default My first shot at reluming

I have a 6119 6030 thats been sitting in the project drawer for ages.
The dial is pretty beat up and the lume is full of Black mould, or wabi as the "But its original" brigade call it.


So bugger all to loose, i bought some cheap Redrooster relume compound, and had a go.


Nowhere near Guy's standards (yet) but im quite pleased with how its turned out.
No before pics im afraid as i thought this would turn out to be a complete mess.
Ive done the hands as well but i cant take pics as they are still on sticks drying out.


Click on the pic to see all the scratches, and why this completely knackerd dial is now only half knackered
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Nothing wrong at all with that job, looks great.
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Nothing wrong at all with that job, looks great.
Thanks Jerry, your too kind, IMOP the lume is too uneven, ive either got the mixture wrong, and/or the oiling pin ive used was too big, or perhaps it was because i was using cheap crap.
Now that i know im not going to make a complete balls of it, ill get some decent compound and have another go.
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It looks good good in the pictures, can't see it. A little uneven is okay, lume naturally gets uneven after 40-50 years anyways, looks natural.
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looks nice Ivor - you did well. Learn by doing.

Nice thing is you can remove the lume easily and re-do anything that bugs you. I find I don't make my lume viscous enough and it clumps instead of spreading easily. Get the viscosity right and it makes for an easier job .... thanks for sharing ....
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Aloha Sir,

Ivor, Hey Man it is the ....... EFFORT INTO IT THAT WILL COUNT .
Eventually you will hit it Sir and then get to doing it good.
If no Practice is done to accomplish, then what will it get too ..... Right ??

I Think it is good trying and it is not all that .... Big Of A Mess done.
As you go along other will be able to help you out like when we do our Watch's and Repairs.
Ivor at least you are trying even if Failure comes then you will get it..... Better and Better eventually.

Like you stated to this:
MY FIRST SHOT AT LUMIMG .... , you did say that right so continue on Sir.

Even .... THE BEST OUT THERE HAD TO START SOME WHERE ......RIGHT ...???
Good Effort Sir,
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Not bad...
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^ ... cried the master lumer.

A good start for sure - now you know you can do it
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Mastering reluming is a good skill to have Ivor, you will soon hone your technique.

It's worth spending more on the binder and pigment, good quality stuff is so much easier to use and gives a better result. When I switched from cheap stuff to burgeon it was a revelation, The lume mixes easier and evenly and the binder does not go off too quickly.
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Thanks for the kind comments and the encouragements chaps, and to get a "Not bad" from the master is quite an accolade.


More practice and better quality lume is the way forwards without a doubt.
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Looks good to me Ivor, well done. Another string to your bow!
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I wish I was a master. And it is a good job Ivor. Mike is right about binders etc they can change the flow and look considerably. Looking forward to you doing more!
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Looks good Ivor, I will put a couple of 6309-704X dials in the post for you to sort out for me
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Nice work. I have done hands but not attempted a dial yet. Did you scrape off the old lume before apply the new or did you just relume over the old?
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Nice work. I have done hands but not attempted a dial yet. Did you scrape off the old lume before apply the new or did you just relume over the old?

I softened the old lume first with a little drop of acetone, then scraped it all off with a sharpened Orange wood stick.
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