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I am now working on my third vintage Seiko project. I love a good find; a diamond in the rough if you will. What do you look for in a vintage timepiece when considering it for a project build/restoration? i.e. case lines, dial condition. lume, movement appearance. I always consider how much effort and cost it will take to bring a watch back in comparison to what the seller is asking for the watch.
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Most of my watches I picked them in flea markets, so always little prices. First thing in consider then is if they tick at least a little!
And since I am fairly new I do not know everything about the pieces I pick.... By chance I've ran into some interesting ones.
I do consider the general condition but some of them, even if pretty abused, work for me as learning and modding projects!

The more I learn the more I understand what I am looking for.... And know where to look!
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It has to be salvageable, nice dial is a must. Agree it has to be fixed below value. Had a couple that didn't turn out that way, but overall I'm ahead by a lot.
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I look for a scratched crystal and clean lume.

I don't care if it ticks. Almost all my collection of 70m Sports Divers has either a 5126, 6119b, 6106a, or 7019 caliber movement. I keep a collection of ugly, gold-plated dress watches in these calibers so that I can harvest their movements when I need to.
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Dials, hands, and bezels are the most important followed by original bracelets. Everything else can be sorted.
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Dials, hands, and bezels are the most important followed by original bracelets. Everything else can be sorted.
I agree 100%

Oh yes your crown gaskets arrived today. I will ship them out tomorrow.
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Personally, I look for good case lines, dial and lume condition (indicative of whether moisture had entered or not), and whether the watch runs.
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The more I learn the more I understand what I am looking for.... And know where to look!
For me that just about sums it up perfectly.
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I look for something different with 6119 or 6106 movements.
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I'm attracted to just about anything. There are a few styles and kinds of watches you won't have any competition from me bidding.



I have so many in the project drawer, I've (mostly) stopped buying until I catch up. I have a list of attributes the watch must meet before I buy it. They are so restrictive, I've virtually guaranteed I won't have to buy. Like a beat up 7548-700F with a serial number 55xxxx. I haven't seen one in 5 years except my brother's.
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Even a water damaged watch you guys still buy?!?


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I try not too but, in some cases, where I like what I see but the seller has not or is not able to take photographs of the movement I assess the hands and dial for water damage. The other possible problem is corrosion between case and case back. It can be a BIG gamble. My latest purchase, an 6119-8560, is one such case but at Ł12 it was a no brainer.

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It depends on what it is and the price. If only the movement is affected an it's easily obtainable and total price is less than the value, then yes, I'd buy a water damaged watch.
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If I see a watch for sale that says it was recently serviced, I am not interested. I want something I can service myself. I also hate watches for sale that say they have been serviced but obviously have not due to the movement looking like it was just pulled up from the bottom of a muddy lake.
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I tend to go for acceptable visually, dial, hands, case etc.

My skills are pretty basic and extend to generally simple fixes or taking mechanical parts from a donor watch thats visually knackered but mechanically usable.

I will give any bellmatic or LCD a go if its cheap enough and visually ok. Anything else generally only if I already have a donor. I am a basic hobbyist and only have the talent for mechanical side of things.

I should say though my idea of visually ok is very different from the hardcore collectors on here, luckily my photography skills are bad enough that you cant tell that form my photos
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