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Old 12-05-2014, 01:08 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I have just destroyed my 7002 700A movement I think, the crown stem release lever has vanished and I am unable to return the stem to its home, is this a simple fix, or time to replace the movement?
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Just buy a 7009 / 7019 and use the parts from it.
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I would love to be able to rip into this, but as yet it is a little beyond me, I was congratulating myself for changing the dial successfully when the clip just vanished and I can no longer get the stem in!
I think a new movement is on the cards sadly.
I do appreciate your time I. Replying.
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Salty, it's pretty easy fix once you have the part, if you are junking the movement I will gladly take it off your hands if you don't want it for parts yourself ok, if not find another knackered movement with the part you need and swap them out my friend.
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Why does it need a new part? You just need to go in and investigate.
Since you've done the dial swap already then you have practiced perhaps the hardest/riskiest part. Take it off again, then keep going until you find your issue. Grab the tech file for the 7002 so you can see exactly how the keyless works should mesh together....
If you are thinking that this movement is junk-then well what is there to loose?? There's a very good chance you'll fix your problem.

If you do fix it....practice taking the stem in and out multiple times before you bother to put the dial and hands back on!
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It might be worth pushing the crown/stem home anyway, slightly twist the crown to align the square section of the stem with the clutch and gently press.

I am not up to speed on the 7002, although I have serviced dozens in the past but the stem release lever may only be required to remove the stem. I may be getting confused with the 7s26 but no harm trying.
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I would love to be able to rip into this, but as yet it is a little beyond me, I was congratulating myself for changing the dial successfully when the clip just vanished and I can no longer get the stem in!
I think a new movement is on the cards sadly.
I do appreciate your time I. Replying.
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The set lever holds the stem in. This isn't something that would "vanish" easily...it would also be difficult to break. You shouldn't need any parts...but you might need some help sorting out the issue.
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Are you saying that the little tab that you push down to release the stem has disappeared?
The little tab is part of the set lever. Unless the lever is broken or possibly the set lever spring, i would think the lever wasnt fully engaged in the release position when you pulled the stem out and has probably gone back into its set hands position which means the little tab has gone back inside the movement and disappeared from view.
Either way the movement is not scrap, however you will need tools.
If you cant re-engage the stem, (gently push in, with a little wiggle and jiggle sometimes works) you can try and coax the set lever back out with a fine pair of tweezers going in from the side, or remove the date guard and date dial and reset the lever from there.
If the set lever or set lever spring is physically broken then a replacement can be sourced from any 70xx movement, PM me if you need one
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...it would also be difficult to break.
Unlike on the Ebel I was doing a battery on today, which turned out to have rust on the split stem joint. The tip of the setting lever let go before the stem did (with remarkably little pull applied!). The phrase Oh #$*! was uttered several times in rapid succession.

Fortunately a couple of people are selling setting levers on the Bay. Unfortunately, they're in the US so I have to explain a couple of week delay on the job.
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Unlike on the Ebel I was doing a battery on today, which turned out to have rust on the split stem joint. The tip of the setting lever let go before the stem did (with remarkably little pull applied!). The phrase Oh #$*! was uttered several times in rapid succession.

Fortunately a couple of people are selling setting levers on the Bay. Unfortunately, they're in the US so I have to explain a couple of week delay on the job.
Did you check Cousins?
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Old 12-05-2014, 07:51 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Yep, no Ebel parts.

They do have a generic setting lever listed for the Cartier version, but it doesn't have the hacking switch contact on it. the customer probably wouldn't even notice, but I'd know!
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