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Old 11-12-2013, 01:32 PM   #1 (permalink)
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My wife and I are thinking of a 2014 Mazda 3 hatchback to replace her tired 1994 Honda Civic DX hatchback. The reviews are uniformly good and the test drives have been pleasant. Any Mazda lovers/haters here? (We live in southern California, so we are not worried about getting service or things like that.) Thanks!
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I use to own a Mazda MX-5 (Miata). Super quality. I prefer Mazda over Toyota or Nissan.
The Mazda 3 hatchback looks awesome IMO
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I've noticed that a large number of cars I see rapidly weaving in and out of traffic are Mazdas. My theory is that the Mazda drivers must take to heart the Mazda TV commercials that emphasize "zoom, zoom".
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I've noticed that a large number of cars I see rapidly weaving in and out of traffic are Mazdas.
That's how I drive.
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The 2014 is pretty sweet. Sat in a 2013 hatchback high-end model and thought, "ho-hum, sort of small for me" and then sat in a 2014 and thought "wow, totally different car." Nice riding. Mileage supposed to be excellent. Just wish my sweet wife would get the automatic but she's still a kid at heart!
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I use to own a Mazda MX-5 (Miata). Super quality. I prefer Mazda over Toyota or Nissan.
The Mazda 3 hatchback looks awesome IMO
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I've noticed that a large number of cars I see rapidly weaving in and out of traffic are Mazdas. My theory is that the Mazda drivers must take to heart the Mazda TV commercials that emphasize "zoom, zoom".
I don't know if they use that zoom zoom still, but my wife sure likes it! The Focus 5-spd stick is pretty nice, too, and about $2500 less. Both cars have common origins, I believe. A tough call to make. (Glad it is her call!)
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I've driven a Rav4 so long that I require something that offers a high view of the traffic ahead. I rented a Chevy Cruze once while the Rav was in for repairs, and I felt like I was skimming the ground in a low scooter. Hated it.
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The 2014 is pretty sweet. Sat in a 2013 hatchback high-end model and thought, "ho-hum, sort of small for me" and then sat in a 2014 and thought "wow, totally different car." Nice riding. Mileage supposed to be excellent. Just wish my sweet wife would get the automatic but she's still a kid at heart!
John, your significant other needs to take a bow! It's so nice to hear folks still like to shift their own gears. Unless it's a van or a big car, I want a manual!
Mazdas are great cars. I had a 2003 323 and a 2006 Protege and never had any problems except when I was t-boned in the latter. I now drive a 2010 Focus and I must say it's a great car as well, although not quite as peppy as the Mazda. The only reason I switched makes was interior space and unfortunately in my case, size matters!
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Default Pretty smooth 6-spd stick

Of course, she has nothing to compare it to, since her 1994 Honda now shifts like a tired old car. Focus 5-spd was smooth too.
Big drawback for me with stick is stop-and-go traffic, which we have plenty of!
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John, your significant other needs to take a bow! It's so nice to hear folks still like to shift their own gears. Unless it's a van or a big car, I want a manual!
Mazdas are great cars. I had a 2003 323 and a 2006 Protege and never had any problems except when I was t-boned in the latter. I now drive a 2010 Focus and I must say it's a great car as well, although not quite as peppy as the Mazda. The only reason I switched makes was interior space and unfortunately in my case, size matters!
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I've driven a Rav4 so long that I require something that offers a high view of the traffic ahead. I rented a Chevy Cruze once while the Rav was in for repairs, and I felt like I was skimming the ground in a low scooter. Hated it.
She would consider a small SUV but mpg becomes an issue. (I loved my 1996 Dodge Caravan GS short-wheelbase soccer-mom van.)
We drove a 2013 Toyota Matrix and it was really nice. Could have gotten it for next to nothing since it was the last one they had and, after 10 years, Toyota is discontinuing the model line. But we didn't think it had the long trip functionality we want. Or mpg. Any Matrix owners here??
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Of course, she has nothing to compare it to, since her 1994 Honda now shifts like a tired old car. Focus 5-spd was smooth too.
Big drawback for me with stick is stop-and-go traffic, which we have plenty of!
Hear ya on the stop-n-go aspect. Reckon' snow is not a factor in your parts, eh?
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If it was, we'd seriously consider the Subarus.
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Hear ya on the stop-n-go aspect. Reckon' snow is not a factor in your parts, eh?
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[QUOTE=JohnWN;490465]She would consider a small SUV but mpg becomes an issue. (I loved my 1996 Dodge Caravan GS short-wheelbase soccer-mom van.)
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Our '99 Rav still delivers the original 20-22MPG city, 27 MPG highway. The mileage has probably improved on the later Rav's.
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I have only seen the new Mazda 3 at the autoshow and I was impressed. The car is nice and definitely a big step up from the previous generation.

I only test drove the previous gen (2012) Mazdaspeed 3 for a few times. I found the clutch to be on the heavy side and the engagement of the gear is lacking by just a little bit.

If your wife prefer stick shift [does she has a sister? ;-) ], then have you checked out the Honda Civic Si Sedan? I found that Honda really makes one of the best FWD stich shift gearbox. The clutch and gear shifts is effortless with positive engagement. And I heard that 2013 (maybe 2014 will be out soon) is a step up from 2012 in quality. And I kinda like how the 2013 looks, especially the tail light.

I think Mazda makes good car, I am on the hunt of a clean early Miata as a toy myself, but you can't beat Honda for resale value and reliability. And the K20 engine has a little punch and makes the right noise too.
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I have only seen the new Mazda 3 at the autoshow and I was impressed. The car is nice and definitely a big step up from the previous generation.

I only test drove the previous gen (2012) Mazdaspeed 3 for a few times. I found the clutch to be on the heavy side and the engagement of the gear is lacking by just a little bit.

If your wife prefer stick shift [does she has a sister? ;-) ], then have you checked out the Honda Civic Si Sedan? I found that Honda really makes one of the best FWD stich shift gearbox. The clutch and gear shifts is effortless with positive engagement. And I heard that 2013 (maybe 2014 will be out soon) is a step up from 2012 in quality. And I kinda like how the 2013 looks, especially the tail light.

I think Mazda makes good car, I am on the hunt of a clean early Miata as a toy myself, but you can't beat Honda for resale value and reliability. And the K20 engine has a little punch and makes the right noise too.
I immediately noticed a major difference between the 2013 and 2014 Mazda 3 in the area of interior room. It appears Mazda has done a great job with this upgrade.
My wife would get another Honda in a heartbeat if they had a modern version of her 1994 Civic DX hatchback, but today Honda's hatchbacks are limited to the Fit, Insight, and CR Z (unless you want to move up to SUV or minivan). None of those worked for her, altho the Fit is a nice little car.
And, yes, she insists on a stick-shift and I've given up trying to convince that the automatic is more convenient and actually gives an extra mile per gallon.
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For a hatchback, Mazda 3 is really hard to beat. Depends on what you are looking for, the Honda Fit is actually a pretty good choice, the interior is big for its size and the rear seat has clever configurations.

The VW GTI is excellent choice too with a peppy engine that's a joy to drive, but its a VW ... ;-)

I do have a friend that has a '07 GTI with around 80k miles with no major issue.

BTW, have seem the Nissan Juke? If you can get pass on how it looks (I happened to be the ones that don't mind it), its available in FWD with a manual gearbox. Its a small crossover that should deliver decent mpg if you don't dip into the boost all the times
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Good suggestions, thanks!
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John,

I've driven two generations of Mazda Protege (predecessor of the "3") and a 2001 626. They were all excellent cars. I'm guessing you can't go wrong with a "3".

Congratulations on having a wife who's into driving!

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What is really making me right now is the (apparent?) problem with the Mazda dealers here in the greater L.A. area finding us a 6-spd manual transmission hatchback Mazda 3 i-Sport in one of three body colors. Come on, guys! Are you 'ing us because we're using USAA Insurance's car buying service? You better get it together because the 5-speed Ford Focus we test drove was pretty darn nice (and close to $2500 less expensive).

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I've driven two generations of Mazda Protege (predecessor of the "3") and a 2001 626. They were all excellent cars. I'm guessing you can't go wrong with a "3".

Congratulations on having a wife who's into driving!

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My only complaint about mazdas is early rust. But you won't have to worry about that. I loved the 3 I had. Great sporty economy cars.
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Rust would not be an issue since exposure to road salt is very rare. We do have the salty ocean air, but the car is garaged most of the time when not in use. Thanks!
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That's how I drive.
No offense, Time. But my own personal theory about those rapidly, and most of the time recklessly, weaving in and out of traffic: It's a male driver that just received a cell phone call from his significant other stating, "Honey, if you're not here in 20 minutes, I'm closing my legs."
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No offense, Time. But my own personal theory about those rapidly, and most of the time recklessly, weaving in and out of traffic: It's a male driver that just received a cell phone call from his significant other stating, "Honey, if you're not here in 20 minutes, I'm closing my legs."
no offense taken.
For me it's more like I just left one woman's apartment and I need to make it in time to my next "appointment"
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no offense taken.
For me it's more like I just left one woman's apartment and I need to make it in time to my next "appointment"
Are you bragging or complaining?
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Are you bragging or complaining?
complaining dude!
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