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Old 09-17-2019, 01:48 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default eSnipe, whats this all about ?

Last Sunday I put two snipe bids in on a couple of items and in the morning when I checked I saw this on my eSnipe account (ebay buying limit), I had credit in the account etc so any idea why this happened ? a first for me.

A real bummer as I would have won both items with cash to spare
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Ebay can limit your buyings for a number of reasons. Sort of „customer care“. Dont know if this is what happened to you John. Make a search for ebay buyer limits, perhaps you find something that shines some light on it. Otherwise it could also be a glitch in the system.
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Ebay can limit your buyings for a number of reasons. Sort of „customer care“. Dont know if this is what happened to you John. Make a search for ebay buyer limits, perhaps you find something that shines some light on it. Otherwise it could also be a glitch in the system.
Thanks Phil I checked all the stuff ebay say and theres nothing they say to affect me.
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System than?! I had nearly the same experience some weeks ago. Could not bid on a watch thanks to buyers limit. Till than I didn‘t even know that there is a limit... Nothing of the given reasons were fullfilled from my side... Ebay could not help me, I could only watch the auction go by. Hope you find out what the reason is for this unpleasent situation. Keep us posted please.
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Used to use a sniper program for ebay a couple of years ago, worked really well. Then ebay started blocking it. Never used one since. Lost a good item. Once bitten twice shy.
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Used to use a sniper program for ebay a couple of years ago, worked really well. Then ebay started blocking it. Never used one since. Lost a good item. Once bitten twice shy.
For the last 10 years I have been waiting till the last second of auctions to place my bid. It is tedious. Then last weekend there was an item I wanted but I was out with a mate sailing so could not hover over the computer. So I did some research and downloaded Gixen free sniper. It is simple to use and so far it works.
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I'll take a look, thanks Mike.

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For the last 10 years I have been waiting till the last second of auctions to place my bid. It is tedious. Then last weekend there was an item I wanted but I was out with a mate sailing so could not hover over the computer. So I did some research and downloaded Gixen free sniper. It is simple to use and so far it works.
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I've used eSnipe on and off for a long time and its been really great and saved me from losing sleep many times but missing out on those two items has now made me quite windy about it, on a positive note it saved me some $$$s though
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True, but if you lose something really nice and it went below your max, its a bummer!
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I’ve used esnipe since 2003 ... over that time I think it’s missed one or two bids due to system outage. I’ve never seen the “eBay buying limit” message, but now I’ll be looking out for it.
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Why not just enter your max and be done with it?
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Why not just enter your max and be done with it?

Excellent question and point, IMHO.
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Why not just enter your max and be done with it?

Because i'm a cheapskate and hope to get it cheaper than my maximum bid
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Why not just enter your max and be done with it?
I do it to keep discrete. Make the other bidders comfortable till the last few remaing seconds. Then boom! "where did this guy come from?!". Ebay on the other hand would just keep updating my bids in increments and drive up the price.
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I do it to keep discrete. Make the other bidders comfortable till the last few remaing seconds. Then boom! "where did this guy come from?!". Ebay on the other hand would just keep updating my bids in increments and drive up the price.
That’s my rationale, also. This likely stems from my my flawed understanding of mass psychology, but if I enter my max bid long before the auction ends, it usually seems as though there’s someone willing to outbid me. Whether that was always their intention, or they get caught up in the excitement of the moment, I’ll never know.

Whatever the reason, I do seem to win more auctions — sometimes for much less than I expect — by waiting until the last moment before bidding.
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Yahoo Japan will only allow a certain percentage over the current high bid with a new bid. For example if a 6105-8110 is at $100 then you want to bid $1000 you can't. You get stopped at something like $150 or $200 or such. So you enter a snipe bid of $1000 (your max.) and then you wait it out for the automated update.


On ebay if I sit around and snipe it's because I like the thrill of it all. Making others think they are without heavy competition. But I think fun not included, most of the time the final price is what it would have been had everyone just maxed out early on.
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I do it to keep discrete. Make the other bidders comfortable till the last few remaing seconds. Then boom! "where did this guy come from?!". Ebay on the other hand would just keep updating my bids in increments and drive up the price.

So here's a scenario I try to avoid:



A part is at $25 with an hour to go and it's worth $100 and you know it. So with a few seconds left you bid $50. But it turns out the displayed $25 price is from a guy who maxed out at $75 but his only prior competition until the bitter end was a $24 bid.



So the price goes to $51 and you lose out when you would have gladly paid $100.



Or you snipe with 10 seconds to go knowing you are poised to enter that $101 bid if the first snipe drives it above. When it goes to $51 with 3 seconds left your typing skills kick in and enter a $101 bid with no time on the clock ! Meanwhile the other snipers are all huddled around the computers and ipads and phones entering snipe bids while you are sniping and re-sniping. The adreniline flows ! This is FUN ! You wait it is says "You Won Pay Now" WIS Heaven !!!



But in the end I think most of the time the gavel drops where it would have had everyone entered their normal (non-nuclear) bids.
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Had an interesting experience with ebay the other night bidding on a very nice original 6139-60xx that was being sold out of an estate; one owner. I wanted to snipe a bid and was at the computer but as I would enter my bid the bid would only stay in the box for a few seconds and then blank out. I could not just type in my dollar amount and sit there waiting on the clock. I am note sure what was going on. Maybe my computer or a bug with ebay but I lost out on a nice item due to this technical BS. Bidding from my iphone seems to work better for me.
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So here's a scenario I try to avoid:



A part is at $25 with an hour to go and it's worth $100 and you know it. So with a few seconds left you bid $50. But it turns out the displayed $25 price is from a guy who maxed out at $75 but his only prior competition until the bitter end was a $24 bid.



So the price goes to $51 and you lose out when you would have gladly paid $100.



Or you snipe with 10 seconds to go knowing you are poised to enter that $101 bid if the first snipe drives it above. When it goes to $51 with 3 seconds left your typing skills kick in and enter a $101 bid with no time on the clock ! Meanwhile the other snipers are all huddled around the computers and ipads and phones entering snipe bids while you are sniping and re-sniping. The adreniline flows ! This is FUN ! You wait it is says "You Won Pay Now" WIS Heaven !!!



But in the end I think most of the time the gavel drops where it would have had everyone entered their normal (non-nuclear) bids.
When I place a snipe bid it is for the maximum I am prepared to pay, if I get it cheaper, great, if it sells for $1 or $1000 above my maximum so be it as I had placed my top line
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So here's a scenario I try to avoid:



A part is at $25 with an hour to go and it's worth $100 and you know it. So with a few seconds left you bid $50. But it turns out the displayed $25 price is from a guy who maxed out at $75 but his only prior competition until the bitter end was a $24 bid.



So the price goes to $51 and you lose out when you would have gladly paid $100.



Or you snipe with 10 seconds to go knowing you are poised to enter that $101 bid if the first snipe drives it above. When it goes to $51 with 3 seconds left your typing skills kick in and enter a $101 bid with no time on the clock ! Meanwhile the other snipers are all huddled around the computers and ipads and phones entering snipe bids while you are sniping and re-sniping. The adreniline flows ! This is FUN ! You wait it is says "You Won Pay Now" WIS Heaven !!!



But in the end I think most of the time the gavel drops where it would have had everyone entered their normal (non-nuclear) bids.
I think another reason I use a 3rd party sniper is to avoid getting caught up in the frenzy. It's a mind xxxx tbh and it's hard to avoid while watching the auction. So I put on what I'm willing to pay at most with instruction to snipe at 3 seconds and sleep on it. Thats probably the only true difference from the way I see it. I hate getting emails from ebay every so often following up to the end like "YOU CAN STILL WIN THIS, HURRY INCREASE YOUR BID!". Nice try eBay but not today!

And sometimes you can get really lucky with BIN like this guy right here
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I think another reason I use a 3rd party sniper is to avoid getting caught up in the frenzy. It's a mind xxxx tbh and it's hard to avoid while watching the auction. So I put on what I'm willing to pay at most with instruction to snipe at 3 seconds and sleep on it. Thats probably the only true difference from the way I see it. I hate getting emails from ebay every so often following up to the end like "YOU CAN STILL WIN THIS, HURRY INCREASE YOUR BID!". Nice try eBay but not today!

And sometimes you can get really lucky with BIN like this guy right here
Wowza congrats that’s a bargain !!
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Wowza congrats that’s a bargain !!
Lol I wish but that wasn't me. I was only a few minutes too late.
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I was just thinking about using a sniping service recently. I remember my friend using one like around 2002, but I stopped using ebay for like 10 years, only recently starting to use it more frequently again, and wasn't sure if they're still around. Good to know, thanks.
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