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Have a record of everyone's DNA 5 29.41%
No record of anyones DNA 12 70.59%
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Old 08-08-2018, 02:24 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Invasion of privacy or what ?

I have often thought that there should be a full DNA record of everyone, ideal for use in crime, death etc etc.

Unless you have something to hide or your afraid of whats so wrong about having a DNA record of us all ?
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Now where did you get the idea for this thread?

I definitely have nothing to hide I'm aware of. I'm just one of these people that thinks big brother has no business knowing every single thing about me.

I'm also not naive enough to think there's already more on file than I'll ever know.

I've honestly got over 14, 000 names on my Ancestry family tree now, so I have a pretty good idea what my heritage comes from, without contributing my DNA.
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Just remember that there is no such thing as a benevolent government. It will get interesting once genetic manipulation is a thing. Our maybe even earlier. I can think of a time here in Germany when the ruling party would have been thrilled to have a complete DNA record of everyone...
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Now where did you get the idea for this thread?

I definitely have nothing to hide I'm aware of. I'm just one of these people that thinks big brother has no business knowing every single thing about me.

I'm also not naive enough to think there's already more on file than I'll ever know.

I've honestly got over 14, 000 names on my Ancestry family tree now, so I have a pretty good idea what my heritage comes from, without contributing my DNA.


I have mentioned it times to people I know, I just don't know why some people are so against it.

Take the fire tragedy (Grenfell tower block) we had in the UK last year surly a DNA register would have speeded things up for the authorities and for the families of the missing.

Mind I imagine there would be a few or perhaps a lot of paternity problems
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thanks for posting this - a lively topic to be sure. Will be interested in the poll results and comments. thanks John ....
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it would be nice if we all just spat at the politicians, this would save the tax payer a fortune in collection costs.
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I don’t see it as invasive as most people do. I wouldn’t mind it if my dna was registered with authorities, don’t get how that would be a detriment.
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I don't think the government needs DNA but this is likely collected at birth now anyway or through routine health care visits without our knowledge.

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Maybe for known criminals only. I don't need "Big Brother" looking over my shoulder.
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I don't think the government needs DNA but this is likely collected at birth now anyway or through routine health care visits without our knowledge.

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Yep my thoughts exactly.
An ideal way when blood is taken or a swab without our Knowledge.
Whose to say when i was out cold getting my recent Hip replacement or my ops even more recently that a swab is not taken from my mouth and i would not have a clue? They have all your personal info in hospital anyway as you have to give it.
There better not be a healthy Clone of me walking around with two good Hips and no crutches with a recent collection of Smael watches!!
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I have lost trust with governments, I dont believe people will stand for election with poor or dishonest thoughts but after awhile they all seam to become a little careless with the truth & then their standards drop, and we all suffer.
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I have lost trust with governments, I dont believe people will stand for election with poor or dishonest thoughts but after awhile they all seam to become a little careless with the truth & then their standards drop, and we all suffer.

Amen.
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Id kind of like to not be denied healthcare coverage because a DNA analysis revealed a predisposition to some disease that hasnt even manifested itself.

I was denied insurance coverage back in the late 80s when I admitted on the form that I had seen a chiropractor. The fact of the matter was that I had seen a chiropractor because he was a friend of mine who what attending college at the time and needed patients for the clinical portion of his studies. The insurance companies didnt care and initially completely refused to insure me, then later were convinced to only exclude my lower back. Id like to avoid going through that nonsense again.


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Spend some time in politics and you will find out why this should not happen. I used to delude myself into thinking there was a common good. I then realized that was a construct of my particular upbringing and the culture of my birth. That is not what exists today. Most seek their own self-interest, regardless of there proclamations of the common good.
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Pendulum always swing the other way. People will use the data for the wrong reAsons.
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Is this so we can find out the previous owners of second hand watches and make them responsible for them not looking after their watches!!! Name and shame!!
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Unless you have something to hide or your afraid of whats so wrong about having a DNA record of us all ?

Your assumption is that a government won't abuse the information it has. Do you trust the several governments that have laws allowing them to throw you into jail for saying the "wrong thing"? Point is, you don't have to have something to hide to fall afoul of the laws which have become increasingly subjective. As tribal identity grouping becomes the norm for government operations, DNA information may be abused.
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