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Old 05-20-2018, 08:34 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I love my Seiko Automatics.


I told myself, I'd likely never buy a non-Seiko again.*


I told myself I'd definitely never buy a Quartz watch again.
Why would I? I hate Quartz watches.




Then a Bulova Accutron II Surveyor Blue 96B212 came up for sale so I googled it / looked at some YouTube clips. Well, that was a mistake.


The main reason for my Quartz hate is that 1 second/tick second hand. Annoys me a lot. A LOT. In a Chinese water torture kind of way.


So this thing has a lovely dial, a butter smooth second hand and (though not very important to me) astounding accuracy which is kinda cool.


So I bought it.


The missus is gonna kill me.






* The exception to my "Buy Seiko" rule always will be an Omega pie-pan Constellation. I would just LOVE one of those watches.
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I love my Seiko Automatics.


I told myself, I'd likely never buy a non-Seiko again.*


I told myself I'd definitely never buy a Quartz watch again.
Why would I? I hate Quartz watches.




Then a Bulova Accutron II Surveyor Blue 96B212 came up for sale so I googled it / looked at some YouTube clips. Well, that was a mistake.


The main reason for my Quartz hate is that 1 second/tick second hand. Annoys me a lot. A LOT. In a Chinese water torture kind of way.


So this thing has a lovely dial, a butter smooth second hand and (though not very important to me) astounding accuracy which is kinda cool.


So I bought it.


The missus is gonna kill me.






* The exception to my "Buy Seiko" rule always will be an Omega pie-pan Constellation. I would just LOVE one of those watches.

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Old 05-20-2018, 08:47 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Well, I haven't got it yet, but can still oblige





More pictures here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/ePHc3GDhRziLr6AE6
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Old 05-20-2018, 09:20 PM   #4 (permalink)
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It’s a cool watch. I like it.
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I know what you mean about the one second tick! A sweeping second had just looks better, and a smooth sweep? Well, that’s just dandy!
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I like the sweep on these, totally smooth! I bought a lobster one for my Dad last year, he almost didn’t get it!
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How's the battery span for this?
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Know what the OP means about the ticking thing. I have a Bulova Precisionist, and the smooth sweep accompanied by the accuracy, actually gives me a "semi"
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The smooth ss hand has been an allure for Accutron and ESA916x (tuning fork) movement fans for a very long time. Omega Megasonic & Seiko Spring Drive offer the same, as does the Swiss Beta 21 movements (which are somewhat rare and pricey).
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Know what the OP means about the ticking thing. I have a Bulova Precisionist, and the smooth sweep accompanied by the accuracy, actually gives me a "semi"
As the seller of the watch pictured above, I never realized this effect, but now I’m thinking that I was either not using it right or maybe I should’ve charged more when I sold it.

To the OP, glad you're excited to receive. Tracking tells me it’s just through Chicago now. And I’m sure the Mrs. won’t mind too much once she sees how cool it is (not to mention if it has the same effect for you as with BangOnTime).

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hehehe

I told her after she bought a pair of shoes. And a pair of boots. And a shirt and a scarf.

Maybe I need to do some catching up!
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Can never go wrong with a Bulova Accutron. Had one as well and I loved it! Time accuracy is also great!
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Can never go wrong with a Bulova Accutron. Had one as well and I loved it! Time accuracy is also great!



From a watchmaker's perspective they're TERRIBLE. I've had people ask me if I'd work on them and I've said no....like other people in the trade.

Great idea when the made them but a nightmare to work on


A customer the other night told me he'd sold his. He couldn't stand the humming sound. I said good....and don't get another one.
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The main reason for my Quartz hate is that 1 second/tick second hand. Annoys me a lot. A LOT. In a Chinese water torture kind of way.

It's funny how some of us like something about watches and others find the same thing annoying! I'm a "quartz guy" and I like the fact that quartz watches - usually - tick once a second. I see it as being particularly accurate and fit for purpose. A second hand measures the passing of seconds, so of course it "only" moves once a second.... :-)
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nzwatch doctor - aren't you just Captain Positivity!


Barfkity - that's what makes this hobby so good - there's something for everyone.




Anyway it's in the post and probably in the hands of Australia Post by now. (so I might see it at some time in future. They really are hopeless).


Looking forward to it
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I have a vintage Bulova Accutron 214 Spaceview with tuning fork. It's quite amazing to see and hear that second hand going. Almost as good as Spring Drive
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Well it's arrived and I'm very happy

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Bulova CURV will probably be my only quartz desire. Quartz with a sweeping hand, amazing.
I think a Seiko has a sweeping quartz movement.Or?

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From a watchmaker's perspective they're TERRIBLE. I've had people ask me if I'd work on them and I've said no....like other people in the trade.

Great idea when the made them but a nightmare to work on


A customer the other night told me he'd sold his. He couldn't stand the humming sound. I said good....and don't get another one.
This is not a tuning fork movement nowadays, something like ultra high frequency quartz now.

Regards the original movements I think they’re pretty incredible. I have a
Couple that have been running for, what over 40 years now (one was my grandads) both super accurate still. When you consider how that tiny index wheel is being driven along its hard to imagine what those two indexing jewels are going through all these years. Find them fascinating tech.
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This is not a tuning fork movement nowadays, something like ultra high frequency quartz now.

Regards the original movements I think they’re pretty incredible. I have a
Couple that have been running for, what over 40 years now (one was my grandads) both super accurate still. When you consider how that tiny index wheel is being driven along its hard to imagine what those two indexing jewels are going through all these years. Find them fascinating tech.



I realise they're not (hopefully not) making them now and they only have quartz in the battery line.



You're right re the original movements
No fun to work on though.....
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The 5S series is the Seiko equivalent...
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I love bulova’s precisionist. What i do not love are the repair costs. Bulova for some reason does not seel parts for precisionist movements. Even the plastic hour wheel is not for sale. And their movements are more expensive compared to other quartz movements.
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Well it's fine. It's only worn as part of a rotation, not every day. And I'm happy with it.
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As a contender to the Bulova, how about a Citizen Cosmotron? Electronic, with a smooth second hand and a tick, and you can set it up on a Timegrapher........

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Good choice!
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