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In changing strap on a Swiss model, noticed two holes per lug, one closer to the case than the other. (Hadn't seen that on any Japanese model, but I haven't changed that many straps. ;D ) Guess that's to accomodate either a straight-end or curved-end strap?
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I actually have this on an Invicta of all things.
I think it would be helpful if you wanted to use a Nato/Zulu. If the bars are too close, it might be difficult to get the strap in there.

Did it cause you any trouble to change the strap? Looking at it makes me wonder if it would be more difficult to get in there with the spring bar tool.
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I actually have this on an Invicta of all things.
I think it would be helpful if you wanted to use a Nato/Zulu. If the bars are too close, it might be difficult to get the strap in there.

Did it cause you any trouble to change the strap? Looking at it makes me wonder if it would be more difficult to get in there with the spring bar tool.
Only trouble was due to the newness of the strap and, in getting the springbar back in on one side; the springbar went into a different hole than on the opposing lug and had to be removed/reinserted. (The latter, of course, due to the ineptness of the operator )
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Only trouble was due to the newness of the strap and, in getting the springbar back in on one side; the springbar went into a different hole than on the opposing lug and had to be removed/reinserted. (The latter, of course, due to the ineptness of the operator )
Ah, no operator ineptness here IMO. You were treading on new territory!
I've missed too many times with single holes. Chasing them across the kitchen has become a game for my cat.

Looking at the Invicta again, it really looks like a mess in there. I think I'll just leave the bracelet on....
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My Orient Star Classic has this. I have no idea why, but it makes changing the bracelet a real biotch.
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Never had a watch with that feature, but can appreciate it.....
I have had certain watches with tight lug to lug spaces, allowing for thin bands (usual the older vintage OEM ones or some older Japanese thinner straps....)

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IMO, it is a very cool feature. Like having a set of alloy rims with two different PCDs.
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Finally got a reply from Wenger as to the purpose of two holes per lug on the model 72962. They stated that the model is available with a strap or a bracelet, and the two-holes-per-lug set-up is meant to facilitate placement of either (the strap or the bracelet). Seems to make sense. ;D
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Finally got a reply from Wenger as to the purpose of two holes per lug on the model 72962. They stated that the model is available with a strap or a bracelet, and the two-holes-per-lug set-up is meant to facilitate placement of either (the strap or the bracelet). Seems to make sense. ;D
Makes sense until you actually go to put the bracelet on. Good luck with that one.
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Makes sense until you actually go to put the bracelet on. Good luck with that one.
I'm destined never to find out bracelet-wise. The Wenger came on a strap and will remain on a strap.
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My Boschett Cave Dweller II also has two sets of lug holes, one for the bracelet and the other for the fitted silicone strap. Makes it tough to mount a strap, but I love the options when fitting a thicker Zulu or Rhino strap vs. a thinner NATO strap, or a thicker vs. thinner rubber dive strap.



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[quote Makes it tough to mount a strap,


Is the "tough to mount" refer to lining up the springbar where one end will not be in a different hole from the other end? That's the only difficulty I encountered relating two the "two holes per lug" set-up.
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[quote Makes it tough to mount a strap,


Is the "tough to mount" refer to lining up the springbar where one end will not be in a different hole from the other end? That's the only difficulty I encountered relating two the "two holes per lug" set-up.

Yes.


The fitted rubber strap fits in SOOO TIGHTLY that it is difficult to find both springbar holes.
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Yes.


The fitted rubber strap fits in SOOO TIGHTLY that it is difficult to find both springbar holes.
One possible solution once the original strap is removed: quick-release springbars.
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I've never tried them. I think I may have to now!


Thank you!


I haven't yet mounted this CD II (a truly massive beast) on it's bracelet yet. If I can scrounge up a couple 22mm quick release bars I think I'll give it a try.

Are there any increased concerns about the strength or stability of the quick release bars vs. standard shouldered or non-shouldered thick bars?
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I've never tried them. I think I may have to now!


Thank you!


Are there any increased concerns about the strength or stability of the quick release bars vs. standard shouldered or non-shouldered thick bars?
Don't have enough experience with the QR's to say. Mounted a pair once, but due to change of plans/watch, ended up "flipping" it. Only heard of one instance of the "button" or "knob" breaking off (which would then render the removal procedure same as ordinary SB's). Those with more knowledge/experience with QR springbars, please chime in.
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