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Old 04-25-2014, 07:17 PM   #1 (permalink)
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[WARNING: The following is a mind-numbingly detailed discussion of various spring bars - I would appreciate any opinions though!]

I recently acquired a good running 6309-7040 from a fellow forumer for daily wear. It's mostly exactly what I was looking for but the lug holes are a bit enlarged:

Now I'm not about to find another case as the whole point of the watch is as an inexpensive every day beater, but I would like to select a spring bar which minimises further damage. I'll be wearing it with a Hirsch Liberty style leather strap and my options are:
1) Seiko 22mm Fat SB with 1.1mm ends

2) Citizen 23mm Thin Double Flanged SB with 1.2mm ends (pictured)

3) Seiko 22mm Thin Stair Flanged SB with 1.1mm ends (pictured)

As I see it the advantages and disadvantages are as follows:
1) The sturdiest SB, but is a tight squeeze in the strap so will turn and possibly compress SB in either direction as the strap moves - I am told this could lead to increased wear...

2) The thickest ends, but a shorter end length - also, on the largest lug hole the first flanged bit enters the lug-hole (see picture below), and due to the thin flange ring(?) seems like it might be... scratchier than the others?

3) Proper length ends but lots of space around it in lug-hole - having said that it seems to stay put for the most part as the hole is less enlarged at the bottom (see picture).

So, if you've made it through all of that, which option would you go for?
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One thought would be to solder in fixed bars and wear on a NATO strap or similar..
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You could have then laser welded and redrill ?

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Thanks guys. Both good practical ideas and the advice is very much appreciated. Unfortunately anything requiring a nato is a non-starter as I like the look of a leather strap and don't want to lose the wrist-hugging fit (one of my favourite things about a 6309).

John that sounds like a great solution - though possibly will make this watch more expensive than I want (I bought a properly serviced one in the hope of avoiding a money-drain!). Any idea of costs?

Assuming I'm willing to take the risk with the holes as they are, any thoughts on which of the 3 spring-bars will do the least further damage?
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Thanks guys. Both good practical ideas and the advice is very much appreciated. Unfortunately anything requiring a nato is a non-starter as I like the look of a leather strap and don't want to lose the wrist-hugging fit (one of my favourite things about a 6309).

John that sounds like a great solution - though possibly will make this watch more expensive than I want (I bought a properly serviced one in the hope of avoiding a money-drain!). Any idea of costs?

Assuming I'm willing to take the risk with the holes as they are, any thoughts on which of the 3 spring-bars will do the least further damage?
Not cheap to be honest and not worth the expense unless the watch was "special"

My vote for 3 i think.
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Thanks guys. Both good practical ideas and the advice is very much appreciated. Unfortunately anything requiring a nato is a non-starter as I like the look of a leather strap and don't want to lose the wrist-hugging fit (one of my favourite things about a 6309).

John that sounds like a great solution - though possibly will make this watch more expensive than I want (I bought a properly serviced one in the hope of avoiding a money-drain!). Any idea of costs?

Assuming I'm willing to take the risk with the holes as they are, any thoughts on which of the 3 spring-bars will do the least further damage?
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Fixed lugs do not make it compulsory to use a nato, there are plenty of very nice open ended leather straps available these days, Hirsch make some if you're set on that brand
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Not cheap to be honest and not worth the expense unless the watch was "special"

My vote for 3 i think.
John on that one but it depends like said, if its a special Watch. If so
its worth doing because it was meant to keep. I have a couple and
I still use them until they get to big, then they go to see my friend
and get repaired. But he will do them for me free, that would be
my benefit on mine..
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Hey Tiger, what's the ball park on the laser service?
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Hey Tiger, what's the ball park on the laser service?
50 plus postage both ways if i remember correct and obviously that dosent include the drilling of the new lug holes(drilled Lugs for you free Ray ).
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