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Old 10-21-2013, 10:36 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Many many moons ago, when I first came scross this forum, the main subject the discussions was the 300m Marinemaster. And - i must confess - i really could not see what the fuss was all about.

This initial impression stayed with me over the years, never really diminishing - i just couldn't 'get' the attention this watch received. Even after seeing one in the flesh in Tokyo, my attention was drawn to other Seiko's.

However, when an opportunity arose recently to acquire an unused example at a good price and - rather surprisingly - funds were available, i nervously pushed the button.

I say nervouslyy for 2 reaons : firstly (and perhaps not alien to many of you wheeler and dealers) I was totally trusting a chap with whom i had never met or spoke. However, we had dealt before, so i was as confident as i could be that all would be well. The second reason for my apprehension was - will i like this lump of stainless heading my way? During the all too familiar wait that ensued, i consoled myself with the notion that i could always sell it on and probably make a little on the way. Then, at least I would know one way or another if i was to like this famed timepiece.

Then it arrived and my thoughts were initially mixed. Smaller than i thought/hoped. Box not befitting of the price band. Bracelet - erm ok. Waffle strap - me no like. Clasp - technically great - but could do with some of the edges deburring more. Face, bezel , glass , case - truly trul stunning.

Whilst my opinions of the box (not a huge issue for me really), waffle and clasp remain, my positive thoughts have multiplied themselves 100 fold. This is the most incredibly good looking watch i have almost ever seen. It exudes glass like no other watch i have ever seen. Having had opportunities to compare this watch with Rolex, Oris, IWC etc, i can firmly state , IMHO of course, this watch blows them all away.

Over the weeks preceeding writing this little ditty, i have tried to figure out just what it is that makes this watch stand out from all others. And to be honest, i can't. The dial, the slight blueing of the glass, the slightly off white lume, the bezel , the case facets - and even the size of the thing are all spot on.

Proportions are everything - and the designers here must have tweaked into the moonlit hours - ten microns here, ten there - because they really nailed it.

Photographs (especially mine ) do not do it justice. They make it appear just like all other watches. And it most certainly is not.

Prior to going ahead with the deal, i read all reviews i could. Looked at the pics etc. Noted various online comparisons. Rolex, Omega, Oris IWC etc etc. And the ubiqitous Sumo comparison. The MM always came out on top of course. But then it should for 3 or 4 Sumos could be acquired for one 300m. Having a few Sumos, i was keen to see how they compared. Whilst thinking they are incrediby good value and stunning watches, i am still a bigger fan of the late great Samurai.

A Sumo on the wrist is a good looking thing to behold. But it is totally blown into the weeds by the Marine Master. Once again, photos cannot portray the difference. The 300 has a sheer depth of class that the Sumo cannot compete with. In terms of value - Sumo v 300m MM? Sumo no doubt. Sumo v 5 digital Casio? Casio without any doubt. If value for money where the only issue, I would not be writing this - and you would not be reading it.

So - as one may have gathered - a convert I am.






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Over the weeks preceeding writing this little ditty, i have tried to figure out just what it is that makes this watch stand out from all others. And to be honest, i can't. The dial, the slight blueing of the glass, the slightly off white lume, the bezel , the case facets - and even the size of the thing are all spot on.

Proportions are everything - and the designers here must have tweaked into the moonlit hours - ten microns here, ten there - because they really nailed it.
Exactly!



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Nice , another good watch to the collection.
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Enjoyed the essay and the photos! It appears you found a winner.
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liked your write up. enjoy your MM... a great watch to add to your collection.
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mine says hi. welcome to the club. I own a Rolex sub, & the MM quality matches it.
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Write ups like this don't help anyone Barry !!! enjoy
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Thank you for sharing your thoughts. Your point regarding proportions being key is spot on. I also felt some apprehension until I had mine in hand and realized that all the positive commentary is justified. Wear yours in very good health.
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Old 10-21-2013, 03:39 PM   #9 (permalink)
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excellent!
I have not had the chance to own the MM30, but I have handles quite a few.
I am still stuck in the MM300 vs the Sumo question.
I know the MM300 is better, but is it nearly 4 times better than the Sumo?
For my wallets sake, I hope I don't find out
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Congrats Barry , fabulous fabulous watch I love mine


I wish you wouldn't show pics of that yellow sumo though,it's making me green with envy, I could kick myself for not buying one when I had the chance
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The whole MM300 vs. "Sumo" question is really misdirected- it's comparing apples vs. oranges. It's like comparing a Corolla Sport to a low-end Lexus- frankly, both will do the job equally well 95% of the time in everyday use, it's on that 5% margin where the more expensive product will perform better. Rather than comparing the two, more appropriate would be to compare the MM300 to Swiss counterparts in its price range, or a higher end watch, like the Omega Planet Ocean. Then you will likely realize that the MM300 offers good cost performance.

IMO, those who like collecting scads of inexpensive dive watches, modding, and flipping stuff that no longer interests them will likely not appreciate the MM300 enough- and should save their money and use it instead to "buy 3 or 4 sumos" or the equivalent.

I am a MM300 owner, it's on my wrist now. I don't collect dive watches, being a collector of 1960's Seiko gents general purpose watches (I hate the term "dress watches"). I wanted the best dive watch Seiko makes that has a pedigree that stretches back to the glory days of Seiko mechanicals in the sixties, and is like no other dive watch- that's the MM300 for you.
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I agree to the above.
The Sumo cannot be compare to MM300.
Just the movt alone (8L vs 6R) is already in different league.
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Most correct - this watch should not be compared with the Sumo - i guess i only did it as that's what its mainly compared with. Which is daft i confess. Same trap fell into.
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Nice addiction to your collection Barry! Are you going to wear it or will you baby it as you usually do with your watches?

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Ha you know me too well... I suspect you may be able to guess the answer To that one
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When mine arrives, I want to compare to my Omega Bond quartz diver 300m and the German Tutima DI300 all titanium diver!


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A great watch! (preferable for me over the Submariner any day...)

The MM300 is one of those watches that "grow on you...". One really appreciate them in a crescendo manner after wearing them for a while.
(Much better than the alternative: enthusiasm at the beginning and dislike a few days/weeks later...)

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nice write-up and observations!

I really enjoy mine, even though I'm not always certain why I like it so much?
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I love mine!
It's an amazing watch. The problem is, when I wake up from my dream, it's not there.

Oh well, maybe someday.
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