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Old 11-14-2019, 08:13 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I received these two a while back that needed doing and finally got them both sorted after intermittent work over the course of about 3 months.

The auctions were buy it nows from speedtimerkollektion, the nicer one with bracelet being 36, and the lesser one being 16.



I felt this one would be good for parts if needed.

But the one below I believed would have a really smart dial and hands.



Awaiting their arrival didn't last long, but I took some time each night after working on a large backlog (getting there Neil, I promise!) to assess and figure out how to tackle them. There was also some serendipity involved with these that I think you all will be interested to see!

The first cheaper one on the bench.



Lots of corrosion here and there, especially on the dial, and hands.
I removed the caseback to have a proper look at the dial and movement.





I didn't have too much hope for this one, specifically the coil and circuit aswell that I wanted to harvest were looking rather sorry, but I did hope that out of the at least one would make it, hopefully with one complete movement between the two.



Signs of battery and moisture issues, poor lume and corrosion of the plating.

I will leave that one here for now, leaving me to take a look at the other that arrived, this time with a little more hope, but also anticipating disappointment somewhere along the way.

On the bench it looked good.



Lovely lume, just hidden by a scratched crystal. The rotating ring again was worn and missing its paint, something I wanted to sort out.



Again, though, disappointment. The movement had a battery leak as expected from the sales pics. Removing the movement I breathed a sigh of relief.





Wow! Chuffed....the chapter ring on these is fixed to the dial, and the dial, which I think looks superb, has some lovely features. Applied SQ logo, applied Seiko logo. Lume plots nicely designed and I do like these Sports 100 watches, 7546s have always been a favourite but I've wanted one of these for a while now and especially since I serviced someone's last year. There was some slight hazing to the plating but this I'd hope would clean off a little with some careful strokes of rodico.

Moving on, I took a look at the movements and used some donor parts eventually. (BIG THANKS TO MIKE V!)



The date wheel is toast, but although these movements get some bad press, I actually like the simplicity of how they function. Could of course be a lot better and they are definitely far from a 7548, but then they are in a way nicer than the 7T, or 8F3X or 7C4X imo. Simply because there is a limit on plastic parts, and the amount of times a post has snapped or a screw slot had come loose on these others is something I am pleased to say isn't a problem for the 7123A. It suffers from a lack of jewels (2), and it has a very crude pivot hole for the fifth wheel that is simply a hole in the date jumper.

It has a simple, but fairly clever keyless and quickset mechanism that operates with a ratchet on the castle wheel. Yes, a cheap movement, and somewhat fiddly, but I'm showing some love for them...

Although not when they are covered in sulfate...



Eventually I got around to tackling the rotating bezel and cleaned it slightly and started on the painting.



Both were done when I had a moment. This was fairly enjoyable and took some fine oiler thinned paint action.



And the other.



I will go back to the beater example now and see about tackling the dial and handset.

I spent an evening on this one about a month ago now, and it came out quite well. It took some time to remove some battery acid lume-moisture-deposits and the lume plots are unfortunately a little worse for wear. I didn't like the staining on the dial at this point, however.





After masking and painting and getting the lume out, which on these is not very easy at all due to how thin the plots are, which in turn makes luming it a little trickier, it came out like this.



The hands were cleaned and relumed aswell, and the movement was sorted out to get it cased up in its original case.

Before I show that one as it is now, I will move on to the nicer dial and handset, this was also cased up with a running movement and pretty much complete. A shot here of it without the crystal assembly to get an idea of how it would look. Pretty good!
Finding a 295W31HN00 is bloody difficult. Infact, impossible.







Well, I'll live with it. And it looks great. Happy....ish. i couldn't be bothered to sort the alignment of the seconds hand I was just happy to get a personal project done and on the wrist, but also because I knew I would be removing it from this case again. (Remember when I said this case would actually be on the more worse for wear example?)
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Back to the other one, here it is cased up using the better case with no pitting due to rust. The other is usable but I had a reason for this decision to swap back over.
This was quite a turnaround. I used a 295W29HN00 from Cousins. It is a little bit too thin (should be 1.7mm) but works ok.







And a quick reminder.



Now, for those that are still with me (sorry for being so confusing! ) the reason I would end up putting the relumed version onto the case that was in overall better condition was because within about 5 minutes of finishing the nicer one's movement, I checked for others just to see what was what and noticed a NOS case complete. It was.....expensive...but I bid and won. At the same time I also found a NOS crown. It is as if it was meant to be, so eventually they would arrive and I was super happy.



Ahh...the case...







And so with a quick glance back at what once was.



To what now is!













Hopefully you enjoyed the journey in a few minutes as I did over the course of a few months.
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That's an impressive transformation.


I wouldn't have wanted to to touch it in the 'before' stage!
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Guy - Your case, bezel, and dial work is simply superb. Well done.
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That's an impressive transformation.


I wouldn't have wanted to to touch it in the 'before' stage!
Yes I'm sure I felt like I was be ill once these were opened up..

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Guy - Your case, bezel, and dial work is simply superb. Well done.
Thanks for the kind words, John!
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I enjoyed seeing this as you went through it originally via PM. An outcome consistent with what we are use to seeing - superb.
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An Absolutely Amazing Transformation. Incredible Work. The restoration of the entire Watch is Beautiful but the Dial work is Just Over-The-Top Excellence. Matching new paint to old and making it look seamless is nearly Impossible to Do. Guy has repainted Dials for me and I simply cannot even tell where they were touched up. Even under extreme magnification I cannot see any sign of Restoration. It's Magic!
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Awesome job Guy, looks fantastic. Those 7123's are common but I think more don't run than do. I like the recessed bezel on those, and the SS bezels can almost always be cleaned up and saved.
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Beautiful job, Guy - always enjoy the level of detail you provide in your restoration posts!


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Good work on two lovely watches. Nice to see
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Cracking results on them both Guy, great stuff !!!
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Outstanding! The NOS case sets it off beautifully.
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Thanks all yeh turned out great really chuffed. Jerry I haven't seen many of these recently but I also noticed a white dial version that I'm guessing is actually fairly uncommon. Would like one of those now.
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Superb work Guy
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full credit to you
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Guy, your work never ceases to amaze me.
How the hell you manage to restore what looks to me to be a scrap dial, to such high standards baffles me.
That is truly outstanding work.
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Thank you. Appreciate it Ivor if it wasn't for this forum and the help I've had from many of you I'd still wonder what a canon pinion is....
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This is so impressive. I would love to see how you repaint those bezels.


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More amazing transformations! I really enjoy reading these. Thanks for taking the time to write them up.

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Beautiful work, I feel lucky when I see a post like this. There are so many watches that get overlooked just because a hammered old crystal makes them look like they are for the bin....then something like this thread pops up and makes us realise so many truly beat up gems can be bought back to life.

Thanks for all your effort, and sharing
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I'm chuffed to read all your comments, thank you!
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Great work Guy, I've resurrected a few 7123 dress watches, but not found any 'Sports' ones yet, at the right price, to 'play with'....
Fantastic work on the dial, I could really do with your services on my 7548-700F, sadly the dial lets it down,






still lots better than it was though when I first got it...


replacement dials for 7548's appear to be totally unobtainable
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Thanks all yeh turned out great really chuffed. Jerry I haven't seen many of these recently but I also noticed a white dial version that I'm guessing is actually fairly uncommon. Would like one of those now.
Sorry Guy, let me clarify that, I meant the 7123 movement in general. The 2 models you have there aren't seen often and I don't think I've seen the white dial you mentioned, but if I see one I'll let you know.
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John, Mike aquaman might have a 7548 dial going. Jerry, check this.

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John, Mike aquaman might have a 7548 dial going. Jerry, check this.

Cheers Guy, will check that out
A white dial 7123 dress watch that I've just finished....
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