Hi, first post ever.
Just bought a "Pre-used Mint Condition" Zen Presage SSA379J1 from ebay by auction for £166 from an Italian who says he is a collector who services the watches himself.
I thought I was onto a bargain as the watch is so difficult to find here in the UK, and the watch did in fact appear to be in mint condition when it arrived.
However, on closer look I did notice two things, when compared to some Youtube unboxings:
1. Logo engraved on the strap clasp is certainly not in the Seiko font, more like Arial.
2. The rotor is stainless steel colour, whereas from looking online it should be gold colour.
However, the text and markings otherwise all seem accurate.
I'm not so bothered about the strap, but the rotor concerned me. I contacted the seller who said he bought it from another watch store and in his own words: "when I bought the watch is want not running the part we talked about it it was faulty he said he did the service and change that part I told him why didn't you tell me this before he accepted he's fault.
He replicate the rotter from the other Seiko"
To explain what is meant by "the other Seiko," he has attached a photo of a black face Seiko with open heart just below a date dial on the left. The word Automatic printed above 6:00, but lacking the word Presage anywhere, so I don't know what model it is. It's certainly not a Zen Presage!
I am not clear if he switched the rotor from another watch or if he means he *replicated* it himself somehow.
Nor do I know if his explanation is plausible or if this is simply a fake. But I thought at this price range it wouldn't be worth it to make a fake?
Either way, my question is do I accept his offer of a refund, or is there any chance I am onto a decent bargain at this price and worth keeping onto. (I am a very beginner watch owner).
Thank you.
Just bought a "Pre-used Mint Condition" Zen Presage SSA379J1 from ebay by auction for £166 from an Italian who says he is a collector who services the watches himself.
I thought I was onto a bargain as the watch is so difficult to find here in the UK, and the watch did in fact appear to be in mint condition when it arrived.
However, on closer look I did notice two things, when compared to some Youtube unboxings:
1. Logo engraved on the strap clasp is certainly not in the Seiko font, more like Arial.
2. The rotor is stainless steel colour, whereas from looking online it should be gold colour.
However, the text and markings otherwise all seem accurate.
I'm not so bothered about the strap, but the rotor concerned me. I contacted the seller who said he bought it from another watch store and in his own words: "when I bought the watch is want not running the part we talked about it it was faulty he said he did the service and change that part I told him why didn't you tell me this before he accepted he's fault.
He replicate the rotter from the other Seiko"
To explain what is meant by "the other Seiko," he has attached a photo of a black face Seiko with open heart just below a date dial on the left. The word Automatic printed above 6:00, but lacking the word Presage anywhere, so I don't know what model it is. It's certainly not a Zen Presage!
I am not clear if he switched the rotor from another watch or if he means he *replicated* it himself somehow.
Nor do I know if his explanation is plausible or if this is simply a fake. But I thought at this price range it wouldn't be worth it to make a fake?
Either way, my question is do I accept his offer of a refund, or is there any chance I am onto a decent bargain at this price and worth keeping onto. (I am a very beginner watch owner).
Thank you.