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bbilford83 · 11-06-2019, 09:28 PM

Hi All,

Today I got back a watch I'd had with Adrian at VTA for a while, and it finally gives me all the Pogues I'd anecdotally consider to be the rarest - or at least the rarest I'll ever be able to afford, in one instance. So without further ado, here they are, in (mostly) reverse chronological order. They're not the best photos - I was trying to catch the last of the light - but should suffice.

November 1972 6139-6002 "Sunrise" Speedtimer. Folks reading this likely know all about this one, but it appears they were only produced for two months, and they are few and far between!

April 1972 6139-6032 French "Coke" model, export (i.e. non-JDM/Speedtimer). Tom and other Pogue experts long debated whether or not there really was a "coke" export model, but now there seems to be pretty consistent agreement that there was - and Andy graciously sold me his (thanks again, Andy!). This blank-dial (i.e. no resist, no proof, no speedtimer) version appears to have only been released in France, per the French day wheel and French-language advertising that's been found. Much like the...

April 1971 6139-6032 Italian "Coke" model, export (i.e. non-JDM/Speedtimer). This version seems even rarer than the French, and the only two examples I knew of were both owned by forum member Alex. I traded for this one - thanks again Alex! This version, with a resist-marked dial, again appears to only have been released in Italy, per the Italian day wheel and Italian-language advertising that's been found.

October 1971 6139-6032 Forward "Coke" Speedtimer. These come up every now and again, and the consensus seems to be they were some sort of partnership with the car manufacturer Isuzu, though that seems to be a "best guess" kind of situation. Still, extremely hard to find compared to a "standard" Coke model.

July 1969 6139-6000 Silver "Proof" model, export (i.e. non-JDM/Speedtimer). The proof silver models are unquestionably the rarest of the -600X export Pogues, and I've only seen a couple others. Mine is particularly special given the condition - despite the oxidation on the subdial (boo), it appears never to have been worn - I have the original sales paperwork and warrantee, the original chiclet bracelet is crazy rare, and check out that caseback.

Last but not least...

February 1969 6139-6000 Blue Speedtimer. This is the one I just got back from Adrian. As the recently sold-example of a January 1969 6139 sold for an eye-watering amount (congrats, Bertrand!), and it was only the second known to exist, I'll be happy with this February example, which are still quite hard to find. This one has the nicest original matte hands I've ever seen - they wear terribly - and after Adrian's crystal guy worked at it, that original chrome-rimmed crystal looks darn close to new. I'm thrilled with it, and it's running like a top - thanks Adrian!

Sorry for my verbosity, and I hope some folks besides me enjoy seeing all of these rare birds in one place:

bigbluekyle · 11-06-2019, 09:43 PM

WoW!!! All Stunners and Super Rare. Thanks So Much for Sharing!

EDBOner · 11-06-2019, 10:06 PM

Wow, an amazing collection indeed!...you're pretty much like your collection...a hen's teeth collector...congrats for this feat!

nzwatchdoctor · 11-06-2019, 10:11 PM

Thanks for posting and the write up

A staggeringly rare collection and all in excellent condition

I'm very impressed.

browncow · 11-06-2019, 10:47 PM

Bravo!!!
Excellent bunch of hen's teeth you got there!!!

rainier · 11-06-2019, 10:49 PM

Outstanding collection - holy cow - thanks for sharing these!

Grammarofdesign · 11-06-2019, 10:53 PM

I lust after the unworn silver July '69 on a chicklet!

Congrats on a stunning collection.

TheNeilo1 · 11-06-2019, 11:51 PM

Someone’s got the BUG and it’s turned into a Stunning Collection😜👏👏👏⌚️
Superb Sir👍

MediumRB · 11-07-2019, 12:18 AM

Fantastic! That Sunrise dial is really wonderful.

Vette Enthusiast · 11-07-2019, 12:26 AM

Stunning collection of rare Pogues. Thanks for sharing.

alexblex · 11-07-2019, 03:22 AM

Thanks Brian for this update and the nice fotos! La creme de la creme, the best of the best

jay48 · 11-07-2019, 03:48 AM

Stunning!

Wimm · 11-07-2019, 04:29 AM

Too early in my WISdom to have caught the Pogue bug but I admire the dedication needed to learn the subject and then seek out those watches. Congratulations on a fine collection. A toss up between the silver dial or the Forward as my favourites. Congrats again.

**TheTigerUK** · 11-07-2019, 04:47 AM

Quality over quantity every day

Time Seller · 11-07-2019, 05:10 AM

You've certainly earned the accolades!

SeikoPsycho2 · 11-07-2019, 07:16 AM

Great collection Brian! Some Rare Birds there!

I remember when the topic of the French Speedtimer came up and I shared the French Seiko Ad I had run across displaying this model.......

SeaCreechur · 11-07-2019, 07:25 AM

Congrats indeed Brian!

Michael

Jim W · 11-07-2019, 08:31 AM

Absolutely amazing Brian! I love to see collections of this calibre. I especially like the Silver Proof caseback.

Reynaldo · 11-07-2019, 09:28 AM

Outstanding collection

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mwadner · 11-07-2019, 11:22 AM

wow. holy crap.

So uh, which one you going to wear on Pogue Day?

Reflex · 11-07-2019, 01:23 PM

Lovely sextet, so nice to see

bbilford83 · 11-07-2019, 02:25 PM

Thanks all!

Quote:

Originally Posted by mwadner

So uh, which one you going to wear on Pogue Day?

Hah, for at least a little while the 2/69 isn't leaving my wrist. So I glad I splurged to have Adrian do it up. I got it in a lot of two junk watches on YJ with the subdial hand detached, and folks clearly hadn't noticed the serial as the two watches together were about $400. I made a little over $100 selling off the other watch (a stop-and-go 7017), so all-in I am thrilled with both the watch and what I paid

. I had to steal the bracelet off my existing blue 7/69 JDM example, but I hope I'll recoup most of what I put in just by selling off that head alone given what I've seen these go for lately.

CombatID · 11-09-2019, 11:31 PM

Wow - just superb!

mikeobrien · 11-15-2019, 07:26 AM

Fantastic collection.

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11-06-2019, 09:28 PM	#1 (permalink)
bbilford83 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 581 Points: 33 (+)	Hi All, Today I got back a watch I'd had with Adrian at VTA for a while, and it finally gives me all the Pogues I'd anecdotally consider to be the rarest - or at least the rarest I'll ever be able to afford, in one instance. So without further ado, here they are, in (mostly) reverse chronological order. They're not the best photos - I was trying to catch the last of the light - but should suffice. November 1972 6139-6002 "Sunrise" Speedtimer. Folks reading this likely know all about this one, but it appears they were only produced for two months, and they are few and far between! April 1972 6139-6032 French "Coke" model, export (i.e. non-JDM/Speedtimer). Tom and other Pogue experts long debated whether or not there really was a "coke" export model, but now there seems to be pretty consistent agreement that there was - and Andy graciously sold me his (thanks again, Andy!). This blank-dial (i.e. no resist, no proof, no speedtimer) version appears to have only been released in France, per the French day wheel and French-language advertising that's been found. Much like the... April 1971 6139-6032 Italian "Coke" model, export (i.e. non-JDM/Speedtimer). This version seems even rarer than the French, and the only two examples I knew of were both owned by forum member Alex. I traded for this one - thanks again Alex! This version, with a resist-marked dial, again appears to only have been released in Italy, per the Italian day wheel and Italian-language advertising that's been found. October 1971 6139-6032 Forward "Coke" Speedtimer. These come up every now and again, and the consensus seems to be they were some sort of partnership with the car manufacturer Isuzu, though that seems to be a "best guess" kind of situation. Still, extremely hard to find compared to a "standard" Coke model. July 1969 6139-6000 Silver "Proof" model, export (i.e. non-JDM/Speedtimer). The proof silver models are unquestionably the rarest of the -600X export Pogues, and I've only seen a couple others. Mine is particularly special given the condition - despite the oxidation on the subdial (boo), it appears never to have been worn - I have the original sales paperwork and warrantee, the original chiclet bracelet is crazy rare, and check out that caseback. Last but not least... February 1969 6139-6000 Blue Speedtimer. This is the one I just got back from Adrian. As the recently sold-example of a January 1969 6139 sold for an eye-watering amount (congrats, Bertrand!), and it was only the second known to exist, I'll be happy with this February example, which are still quite hard to find. This one has the nicest original matte hands I've ever seen - they wear terribly - and after Adrian's crystal guy worked at it, that original chrome-rimmed crystal looks darn close to new. I'm thrilled with it, and it's running like a top - thanks Adrian! Sorry for my verbosity, and I hope some folks besides me enjoy seeing all of these rare birds in one place: Last edited by bbilford83; 11-10-2019 at 05:18 PM.

11-06-2019, 10:06 PM	#3 (permalink)
EDBOner Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: SEA Posts: 490 Points: 40 (+)	Wow, an amazing collection indeed!...you're pretty much like your collection...a hen's teeth collector...congrats for this feat! __________________ EDBOner "Begin with the end in mind."

11-06-2019, 10:11 PM	#4 (permalink)
nzwatchdoctor Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Posts: 3,225 Points: 54 (+)	Thanks for posting and the write up A staggeringly rare collection and all in excellent condition I'm very impressed. __________________ Paul ;-)

11-06-2019, 10:53 PM	#7 (permalink)
Grammarofdesign Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: US of A Posts: 4,982 Points: 269 (+)	I lust after the unworn silver July '69 on a chicklet! Congrats on a stunning collection. Last edited by Grammarofdesign; 11-06-2019 at 10:56 PM.

11-06-2019, 11:51 PM	#8 (permalink)
TheNeilo1 AqualandKing Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Newcastle UK Posts: 16,733 Points: 1,354 (+)	Someone’s got the BUG and it’s turned into a Stunning Collection😜👏👏👏⌚️ Superb Sir👍 __________________ It is like a Finger Pointing away to the Moon."Dont Concentrate on the Finger or you will Miss all the Heavenly Glory"

11-06-2019, 09:43 PM	#2 (permalink)
bigbluekyle Special Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: I am a Russian Troll :) Posts: 2,094 Points: 97 (+)	WoW!!! All Stunners and Super Rare. Thanks So Much for Sharing!

11-06-2019, 10:47 PM	#5 (permalink)
browncow Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 117 Points: 3 (+)	Bravo!!! Excellent bunch of hen's teeth you got there!!!

11-06-2019, 10:49 PM	#6 (permalink)
rainier Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Posts: 601 Points: 72 (+)	Outstanding collection - holy cow - thanks for sharing these!

11-07-2019, 12:18 AM	#9 (permalink)
MediumRB Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Seoul, RoK Posts: 145 Points: 4 (+)	Fantastic! That Sunrise dial is really wonderful. __________________ Seiko Automatics: Grand Seiko 5641-7000, 6306-7001 Turtle, 6139-7069 "Blue Eye", 4006-7012 Bell-Matic, 5740-8000 Lord Marvel 36000, 6119-6400 orange UFO, 6309-7040 Turtle, J13044 Seikomatic, SKX399K "Philippines" diver Seiko Quartz: Grand Seiko SBGT035, Credor Node GCAT996, 7C46-6009 Ashtray Tuna, 9223-5000 King Quartz, 5855-5000 King Quartz, 7548-7000, 7C43-70109063-5020 Majesta, 8221-5020 Silverwave

11-07-2019, 12:26 AM	#10 (permalink)
Vette Enthusiast Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2019 Location: NOVA Posts: 896 Points: 61 (+)	Stunning collection of rare Pogues. Thanks for sharing. __________________ ____________ --John S.--

11-07-2019, 03:22 AM	#11 (permalink)
alexblex Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Italy Posts: 185 Points: 1 (+)	Thanks Brian for this update and the nice fotos! La creme de la creme, the best of the best

11-07-2019, 03:48 AM	#12 (permalink)
jay48 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: SL Posts: 319 Points: 4 (+)	Stunning!

11-07-2019, 04:29 AM	#13 (permalink)
Wimm Member Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: Hertfordhire - UK Posts: 71 Points: 2 (+)	Too early in my WISdom to have caught the Pogue bug but I admire the dedication needed to learn the subject and then seek out those watches. Congratulations on a fine collection. A toss up between the silver dial or the Forward as my favourites. Congrats again.

11-07-2019, 04:47 AM	#14 (permalink)
TheTigerUK Moderator Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: UK Posts: 27,878 Points: 615 (+)	Quality over quantity every day __________________ www.TheTigerUK.com It's nothing to do with what you need it's what you want !!

11-07-2019, 05:10 AM	#15 (permalink)
Time Seller Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Over the Rainbow Posts: 728 Points: 65 (+)	You've certainly earned the accolades! Last edited by Time Seller; 11-07-2019 at 05:13 AM.

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CombatID Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: South Jersey Posts: 1,323 Points: 104 (+)	Wow - just superb! __________________ Collector of Seiko, Citizen, Bulova, Hamilton, Omega... "What do you care about what other people think" - Richard P. Feynman Philippians 4:8 - Finally, brethren, whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is of good repute, if there is any excellence and if anything worthy of praise, dwell on these things.

11-07-2019, 07:25 AM	#17 (permalink)
SeaCreechur Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Smithfield, NC Posts: 2,007 Points: 179 (+)	Congrats indeed Brian! Michael

11-07-2019, 08:31 AM	#18 (permalink)
Jim W Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Hampshire. UK Posts: 2,738 Points: 108 (+)	Absolutely amazing Brian! I love to see collections of this calibre. I especially like the Silver Proof caseback.

11-07-2019, 09:28 AM	#19 (permalink)
Reynaldo Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Texas gulf coast Posts: 4,243 Points: 301 (+)	Outstanding collection Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

11-07-2019, 11:22 AM	#20 (permalink)
mwadner Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Metro Seattle Posts: 7,747 Points: 413 (+)	wow. holy crap. So uh, which one you going to wear on Pogue Day? __________________ Salvation will not come from the rushing centers of civilization, deliverance will come from the lonely places - Fridtjof Wedel-Jarlsberg Nansen

11-07-2019, 01:23 PM	#21 (permalink)
Reflex Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Cape Town Posts: 5,083 Points: 89 (+)	Lovely sextet, so nice to see

11-15-2019, 07:26 AM	#24 (permalink)
mikeobrien Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Port Douglas, Queensland Australia Posts: 102 Points: 9 (+)	Fantastic collection. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk __________________ Kind Regards, Mike

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