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Old 11-06-2019, 02:27 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Yet another 4004 to add to the collection :0)

I bought this on ebay a few weeks ago from a seller in Israel, as a non running watch. I was rather surprised that there was very little competition as I won it for just over £10.
Well it arrived yesterday and I couldn't believe how a 42 year old watch was in such fantastic original condition.
The good news was that the battery hatch turned easily to the unlock position, but would not come out. I had to take the back off, which for a click on back was surprisingly hard, it would appear that it never been removed since 1977! There was no battery in the watch which explained why the hatch wasn't being pushed off by the hatch springs, anyway with the back off it was easy enough to push the battery hatch out from the inside.

It immediately became obvious why the watch would not run, the negative battery terminal had broken off and was not making contact with the circuit board. Fortunately, amongst my spares stock was a corroded 4633 movement with the battery terminal intact. Ten minutes later, circuit block out and the tiny amount of corrosion underneath removed, where the battery terminal was clamped, coil checked for continuity then reassembled and I have a pristine 4633-8049, with the original bracelet in what appears to be virtually unworn condition, ticking away like new. (+0.6 seconds a day)
There is a tiny dedication on the back of the watch that got me interested, 'Beyond the call of Duty Ipsen Ind. '78'
A little research showed that Ipsen International is an American founded company, producing heat treatment furnaces that moved it's manufacturing to Kleve in Germany in 1957, then majorly expanded it's manufacturing plant there in 1978.....An award then for an employee that had a major influence in that expansion? Which leads to the question 'how did it find it's way to Israel when it appears to have been kept in a drawer for the best part of it's life?
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Nice score John ... looks in great condition. Although someone opened it a few times apparently by the looks of the battery hatch.

I'd agree with your guess on the inscription .... perhaps they wanted a promotion and $$$ and not a watch for all their efforts !!
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Nice score John ... looks in great condition. Although someone opened it a few times apparently by the looks of the battery hatch.

I'd agree with your guess on the inscription .... perhaps they wanted a promotion and $$$ and not a watch for all their efforts !!
I suspect that all the scratches on the battery hatch, Mike, are due to someone very recently trying to get in it to try a new battery, there were also some slight signs of a failed attempt to flip the back off. When I did get it off it was obvious that it had never been opened in a very long time, if ever...
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nice. those case backs can be a bugger to get back on, even with a press ....
gotta love NOS watches. little time capsules.
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Nice score John ... looks in great condition. Although someone opened it a few times apparently by the looks of the battery hatch.
There you are Mike, battery hatch cleaned up a bit
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There you are Mike, battery hatch cleaned up a bit
LOL - thanks John .... appreciate the support and understanding of OCD-ness.

looks great ....

As a matter of fact, I just bought a very plain Jane, basic Seiko quartz. will post shortly.
It just kinda jumped out at me ....
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Cool dial.

You have many 4004’s John? I have a very similar example albeit in a case more akin to the 6139-7030 shape. Mine has the same dial colour and and is amazingly clean with its original bracelet. Don’t think I’ve worn it once since buying off here years ago. This was sold as non working but came to life with a new battery, it did have a long delay starting after the battery swap but has been ticking away on the shelf since.
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Cool dial.

You have many 4004’s John? I have a very similar example albeit in a case more akin to the 6139-7030 shape. Mine has the same dial colour and and is amazingly clean with its original bracelet. Don’t think I’ve worn it once since buying off here years ago. This was sold as non working but came to life with a new battery, it did have a long delay starting after the battery swap but has been ticking away on the shelf since.
Hi, not counted them recently, but at least 30, I'll have to assemble them for a group photo sometime. I 'discovered' them a few years ago, when no one was interested in early quartz analogue watches and at that time they were almost given away on ebay. I loved the chunky styling, with the battery hatch.
There is much more of a following now and prices have risen quite a bit so I was very pleasantly surprised to get this one so cheaply
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