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Old 08-09-2019, 11:54 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Howdy gents - another question or two on this Bullhead that I got on the Bay. This one is full of dna and from the original sellers pics both Sir Alan and I think it is original. I got it in today and everything looks expected except the case. The lines are very sharp but it doesn’t have the brushing that I expect on the bottom half of the case, but it doesn’t look like it was polished “off”. My brown Bullhead has very distinct lines. Thoughts?

Also, it’s a very late version, March of 1979.










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I think the brushed areas just "smoothed" out over the years. Definitely not polished.

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^agreed. Not polished, still got sharp lines Looks like it was worn well but not abused. Great catch, congrats!

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Thanks! It has been a wild ride to get a restorable blue Bullhead! Even decent examples are hard to come by.

This one runs for a little bit and then just stops. But I have confidence that Sir Alan will be able to make it great again.


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Nice pickup Todd. Are you going to refinish the case brushing?
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Nice pickup Todd. Are you going to refinish the case brushing?
Hey! I would love to but I don't know who does this. Is this something that I saw from you?
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The side brushing is easy to replicate. The brushing on the ends is a little more difficult.
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The side brushing is easy to replicate. The brushing on the ends is a little more difficult.
Sir Psycho - most cool. Who is doing good case refinishing?
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You might want to consider this:

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Here's another:

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Hey! I would love to but I don't know who does this. Is this something that I saw from you?
Todd - Yes. Check out my Black Bullhead restoration over in the Watchmaker's sections. I refinished my case and did a complete overhaul and service of the movement. One of my favorite pieces in my collection. So unique.

https://www.thewatchsite.com/34-watc...-bullhead.html
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Why not service it and leave it alone? And I mean get it serviced by someone who checks more than dial up readings. Case is fine imo.

You chose the “economical route” to begin with so stay the course.

The idea of buying an imperfect watch to say you saved money only to spend it on trying to make it perfect again seems contradictory.
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Why not service it and leave it alone? And I mean get it serviced by someone who checks more than dial up readings. Case is fine imo.

You chose the “economical route” to begin with so stay the course.

The idea of buying an imperfect watch to say you saved money only to spend it on trying to make it perfect again seems contradictory.
^^^ Agreed ^^^ A Cleaning, Service, Crystal an gaskets...That's all folks.
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Todd - Yes. Check out my Black Bullhead restoration over in the Watchmaker's sections. I refinished my case and did a complete overhaul and service of the movement. One of my favorite pieces in my collection. So unique.

https://www.thewatchsite.com/34-watc...-bullhead.html


Yes! I just went through that again. Terrific work. I’m just starting with some old three handers and a replacement NH35 that is new. I sent a PM about the case.


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Why not service it and leave it alone? And I mean get it serviced by someone who checks more than dial up readings. Case is fine imo.

You chose the “economical route” to begin with so stay the course.

The idea of buying an imperfect watch to say you saved money only to spend it on trying to make it perfect again seems contradictory.
Have to say I'm in agreement here. When I see a watch that needs a large amount of work I'm pretty confident ti see the potential and the state of the watch is in and make that judgement along with the owner
..but this...I'm with you and David..

My watch is usually crown down, 12 down and 6 down! Dial up is when I'm arrested and have to place my hands on the hood of the veee hickle.
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Why not service it and leave it alone? And I mean get it serviced by someone who checks more than dial up readings. Case is fine imo.

You chose the “economical route” to begin with so stay the course.

The idea of buying an imperfect watch to say you saved money only to spend it on trying to make it perfect again seems contradictory.


Yes, and there are a couple of different camps on whether it is best to just leave it as-is or to replicate the original brushing. I’m not as worried about the cost as I am about what i think the right thing to do should be.

But I’m also spoiled with my brown Bullhead which is completely original down to the crystal. The case brushing is fantastic.

Simon has helped me recently as a second pair of learned eyes in this journey which I started a couple of years ago in search of an original example. The AM dials are hard to tell in photos.

Thank you for this input. I’m considering the options.


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