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Old 08-07-2019, 09:41 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Just had a closer look at the dial and I missed something important before...the 'Detroit Mint' text is offset beneath the 12 o'clock marker!
To my eye I agree that the Text does not look centered or aligned. Also a very unusual Font choice.

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I wish they would just do a sterile dial version, I would get one for $165.
If I remember correctly the Sharkey boys also make a Sterile Dial 6105 Homage. I'll try to find photos.
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I wish they would just do a sterile dial version, I would get one for $165.

Here it is. Links to live auctions are not permitted on the SCWF. Please search "Vintage Diver 6105-8110 Turtle Homage 316L Stainless Steel Sterile Black Dial"

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Just had a closer look at the dial and I missed something important before...the 'Detroit Mint' text is offset beneath the 12 o'clock marker!

This would drive me or anyone with alignment issues, bonkers.
How difficult would it have been to get that small(large) detail right???
That would have been much better. And they left out the 200m water resistant. All those things (leave out the Seiko pn, different logo, add water resistance, etc.) would have been better. I just realized the font comes from the Detroit Tigers "D" and I think it's the same as the Red Wings D.
Hopefully the watch performs well.
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I despise clones/copies/homages/rip-offs or whatever else you want to call them.
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I wish they would just do a sterile dial version, I would get one for $165.

It's not sterile, but the Sharkey only has the logo, no wording. Too many of these on the market now, some being rebranded and sold for silly money. I paid around $140 for mine a couple of years back, has the same Seiko NH35 movement.
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Old 08-07-2019, 10:32 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Almost makes me want to buy an AM seiko dial. I'm not going to sell it, and it is a Seiko movement. All of the things mentioned above about the dial are going to eat at me.
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Just wear it and enjoy it for what it is. I have a Sharkey version and like it a lot. It is well made and keeps good time. The price you paid is not outrageous. The $140 price was when they were trying to break into the market. They went as high as $220-230 for awhile. Must be selling well because they are still out there at the $180-200 level.



I remember seeing real 6105s as a kid. Never fully embraced the design and style. I wanted a cheaper watch to see what all the fuss over these was. I like my Sharkey but still don't care for the design of the 6105 and don't see myself searching for a nice 6105. I will say, it the most comfortable big watch I own. It is faithful to the original except for 20mm band instead of 19mm on the original. The sapphire crystal is a nice bonus, haven't scratched it yet and I scratch every crystal. It's a special gift I have.



Not one single person has commented on the Sharkey in the wild. Nor my real 6309, SKX, Monter, Stargate or Sharkey Tuna. If it makes you happy, wear it.
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Here it is. Links to live auctions are not permitted on the SCWF. Please search "Vintage Diver 6105-8110 Turtle Homage 316L Stainless Steel Sterile Black Dial"

Thanks for the info, I was thinking no writing at all but this is not bad, might get one to play with.
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Thanks for the info, I was thinking no writing at all but this is not bad, might get one to play with.
There are so many Sharkey 6105 Homages out there its hard to keep track of them all There is also this one

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I despise clones/copies/homages/rip-offs or whatever else you want to call them.
I'm with you 100% David but I don't despise them I just dislike them
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I'm with you 100% John but I don't dislike them I just would rather spend a little extra $$$ and buy a 6309 like the one Kat bought

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Bit of a typo there! - NH15 = 4205, NE15 = 6R15 NH35 = 4R35.
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Bit of a typo there! - NH15 = 4205, NE15 = 6R15 NH35 = 4R35.
D'oh! NH35 of course.

Thanks for the correction Dave.
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Hate dials in all of these homage 6105's. Intrigued at the notion of picking one up to mod with better quality dial and hands and bezel insert. Is it safe to assume the dial feet would line up for a 4:00 7S/4R/6R dial?
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Actually, I boo-booed as well!! NH15 =4215 NH05= 4205 😂😂
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Actually, I boo-booed as well!! NH15 =4215 NH05= 4205 😂😂
Don't really want to hijack the thread but I've got a 4205-015b that needs a movement. Do you reckon that NH05 is a direct swap? And where can I source one?

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Don't really want to hijack the thread but I've got a 4205-015b that needs a movement. Do you reckon that NH05 is a direct swap? And where can I source one?

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They are basically the same movement. Seiko stamps the ones destined for Seiko watches as 5205 while the ones aimed at third party assemblers are stamped NH05. Same movement, same performance
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My questions have to do with how it feels when operating the watch -
Does the bezel click and turn with a definite action and not loosely. Does turning it feel like you're turning a knob on a well made machine or like turning a knob on a ratty clunker ?

How.about the crown? Does it spring out when you unscrew it or just meekly unscrews? How about when you screw it down, does it screw down with a consistent number of turns? Do those turns, again, feel like you're turning a knob on a well made machine rather than a ratty clunker ?

When you pull out the crown to set the time, do the hands turn with a definite action? Or do they loosely wiggle around ?
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[QUOTE=850champion;2807155]My questions have to do with how it feels when operating the watch -
Does the bezel click and turn with a definite action and not loosely. Does turning it feel like you're turning a knob on a well made machine or like turning a knob on a ratty clunker ?

How.about the crown? Does it spring out when you unscrew it or just meekly unscrews? How about when you screw it down, does it screw down with a consistent number of turns? Do those turns, again, feel like you're turning a knob on a well made machine rather than a ratty clunker ?

When you pull out the crown to set the time, do the hands turn with a definite action? Or do they loosely wiggle around ?




Setting the hands will be smooth as they are on all NH35s
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Almost makes me want to buy an AM seiko dial. I'm not going to sell it, and it is a Seiko movement. All of the things mentioned above about the dial are going to eat at me.
If the dial is really a bother, you could consider also modding dials for 6105 from Dagaz or Yobokies...
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My questions have to do with how it feels when operating the watch -
Does the bezel click and turn with a definite action and not loosely. Does turning it feel like you're turning a knob on a well made machine or like turning a knob on a ratty clunker ?

How.about the crown? Does it spring out when you unscrew it or just meekly unscrews? How about when you screw it down, does it screw down with a consistent number of turns? Do those turns, again, feel like you're turning a knob on a well made machine rather than a ratty clunker ?

When you pull out the crown to set the time, do the hands turn with a definite action? Or do they loosely wiggle around ?




Setting the hands will be smooth as they are on all NH35s
...same as those with Miyota 9015.

Regarding bezel operation of my homage divers, I have no complaints at all.
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Almost makes me want to buy an AM seiko dial. I'm not going to sell it, and it is a Seiko movement. All of the things mentioned above about the dial are going to eat at me.
If the dial is really a bother, you could consider also modding dials for 6105 from Dagaz or Yobokies...
I'll have to wear it for a while and feel it out. Thank you for the sources.
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