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Old 08-04-2019, 10:47 AM   #26 (permalink)
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VTA makes great gaskets. Get a set and have it pressure tested.


My 6309, which I've had since new, has been in more hot tubs, showers, oceans, waterfalls, sprinklers, etc. than I can count. It has never leaked. My lume is gray. Maybe some moisture has gotten in it. My Dad's 6309 has rarely been in the water and the lume is creamy white.



My only issue with showering is that soap lowers the surface tension of water and the water can get past the seals more easily. So, I limit my showering with a watch on. After an ocean swim, a shower is a sure way to get the salt out. 37 years and not a single spot of rust under the lid.



I know people with old, valuable vintage cars who drive them a lot. 300,000 miles on one Porsche 356. He also maintains it extensively. Just loves driving it. I use my Diving watches for water sports and maintain them.
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Old 08-04-2019, 11:53 AM   #27 (permalink)
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If it's in good condition, no corrosion to any seal mating part and fitted with new seals, I see no reason to not use it underwater. Aint that what it was intended for
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Old 08-04-2019, 12:54 PM   #29 (permalink)
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What about driving a vintage car every day in and out to work? Maybe stick 100,000 miles on it over a couple of years?

Depends on the vintage car. A 911? No. A Volvo 240? Sure.
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Old 08-04-2019, 01:36 PM   #30 (permalink)
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Also another reason to not take a vintage into water is availability of parts. It might be pressure tested but there's always risk. There are just too many external variables that would cause water ingress. You could get tiny droplets in the watch that you wouldn't know about for years only to one day see rust when you take it apart. With modern watches, it's relatively easy to find replacement part or just get another watch.

But with vintage divers its quite the opposite. I'm always tempted to take my vintage into the pool and YES shower with it too as they come out clean and shinny.. but I'd never do it. I have Gshock and a monster for that stuff.

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Anyway Kat irrespective of it being a diver or dress watch the seals/gaskets should be updated as and when needed because we have all seen so many vintage watches ruined for the sake of a failed/old gasket/gaskets.
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Old 08-04-2019, 03:02 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Anyway Kat irrespective of it being a diver or dress watch the seals/gaskets should be updated as and when needed because we have all seen so many vintage watches ruined for the sake of a failed/old gasket/gaskets.


Yes, I can understand that. I have just recently gotten interested in vintage Seiko watches.


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HOT Water imho is the reason more than anything else, why I will never wear a watch Vintage or Newer in HOT water."SHOWER" I gave a good friend Third generation Monster Loves it but has worn her in their Hot Tube Amazingly NO signs of any Damage?? Only yesterday I had him pick out a watch to wear while I send his away to be serviced. He picked out a 6106- 54xx Good Choice He will not wear any watch again In the Hot tube or Shower.
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[QUOTE=Katgirl;2804389]It was definitely stupid of me to shower with it. It was an oversight. I am fortunate that I did no real damage. I think I will treat it with the respect it deserves and baby it from now on.


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Personally, I would change all the gaskets presure test and go for it. It's like not driving an old Porsche in the rain.
I share the same thinking!...enjoy these vintage beauties to the fullest!...am fully aware of (and prepared for) the consequences.
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I share the same thinking!...enjoy these vintage beauties to the fullest!...am fully aware of (and prepared for) the consequences.


I feel fortunate to have found a 6309 in such good original condition. It is even super accurate. Not sure I should push my luck, even after getting the gaskets changed and having it pressure tested. It is an antique, after all....


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I feel fortunate to have found a 6309 in such good original condition. It is even super accurate. Not sure I should push my luck, even after getting the gaskets changed and having it pressure tested. It is an antique, after all....


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With this, you can have peace of mind in using your properly restored 6309 as a tool watch...they were designed and made as such...so, go for it and enjoy!...just please keep in mind the effects of time on the gaskets.
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That is why Casio make $30.00 200M watches. Keep the vintage watches dry and wear them with pride. Use the cheapies for swimming.
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That is why Casio make $30.00 200M watches. Keep the vintage watches dry and wear them with pride. Use the cheapies for swimming.


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NEVER take a watch in warm/hot water The warmer the water = the lower density and it can get past seals where cold water wouldn't.

Somewhere I have a nice graphic showing that the density of water from about the coldest a human can endure to about the hottest a human can endure is virtually unchanged, and certainly not changed enough to slip past seals.



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It’s a known fact seals prefer cold water.
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Can someone please explain why one would shower with a watch other than at a gym or beach when you are just rinsing off? Seriously, why would I bathe wearing a watch? It just makes it harder to wash your wrist. I don't even wear my wedding ring in the shower.


Well, speaking only for myself, I dont like to take my watches off. These days I do tend to change watch a few times per month just to rotate them but, unless the watch is vintage or on leather, I wear them 24/7. My SKX173 went something like 17 years without coming off my wrist.

Besides, mornings are hard. If I dont have some reminder of the time, Im inclined (especially in the winter) to dawdle in the shower until the hot water runs out.


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Somewhere I have a nice graphic showing that the density of water from about the coldest a human can endure to about the hottest a human can endure is virtually unchanged, and certainly not changed enough to slip past seals.



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Kat, Check sealing surfaces, New gaskets, Pressure test, Go Diving, Shower, Heck, You could keep the watch in a glass of water for safe keeping.
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Somewhere I have a nice graphic showing that the density of water from about the coldest a human can endure to about the hottest a human can endure is virtually unchanged, and certainly not changed enough to slip past seals.

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Kat, Check sealing surfaces, New gaskets, Pressure test, Go Diving, Shower, Heck, You could keep the watch in a glass of water for safe keeping.
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What about driving a vintage car every day in and out to work? Maybe stick 100,000 miles on it over a couple of years?
If all the seals on the vintage car has been changed then it should be fine.
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I have renewed all the gaskets in a Bell matic and a 6139 in the past and the pressure tested them and they both passed, in all watches new or good gaskets is the way to go (IMO).
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If all the seals on the vintage car has been changed then it should be fine.
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Can I just clarify....yes get it wet. But check seals and dry it and imo avoid humid steamy hot environments. Always take your watch off before sex!
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