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Old 07-22-2019, 05:42 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default OT: How about a new trade forum rule ?

If an item has been up for sale and bumped without selling for one complete page (25 times) it gets deleted ?

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Old 07-22-2019, 05:56 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I have found old posts that stopped being bumped but the item was still available and I have been contacted about old posts still out there and the item never sold, so I would not support deleting. I would say, however, no more than 5 bumps without a 10% (or whatever is decided to be appropriate) decrease in price. If you don't want to decrease the price, wait 30 days and repost, and start all over.



Keep in mind a rule is only good if enforced, and this will increase workload for someone!
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Old 07-22-2019, 06:21 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Face reality that it will not be sold here - 25 bumps are more than enough. I am for deleting. 25 bumps can take a long time when you bump only once a week.
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I'm fine with that ..... that's a long time to be up for sale .....
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Old 07-22-2019, 06:31 PM   #5 (permalink)
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What about a rule that after a certain number of bumps the item must be reduced in price or not allowed to be bumped....difficult to police though!
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Old 07-22-2019, 06:44 PM   #6 (permalink)
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If the seller needs the money, it seems to me he/she would reduce the price or advertise elsewhere. JMHO.
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this applies only to WTS? i've had my request for a few things for a couple of yrs. some have actually had success after a few years! ie the SCWF watch!

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ps - as to the original question, i would be for a bump with price decrease after a certain no. of times. i really don't think "that" 6105 is going to sell at that price that it's been listed for, at least for the anticipated near future.
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Old 07-22-2019, 06:53 PM   #8 (permalink)
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25 bumps is more than fair. I was thinking more a long the lines of 10 bumps with 2 or more price reductions. Haven't sold by then, you can be certain that every one on all the sales forums have seen it and not bit.

By then, Ebay or Craigslist comes to mind.
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Old 07-22-2019, 07:09 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Like Mike, i have found old posts that have no longer been bumped and contacted the seller to find the item is still available. Usually its parts and its saved one of my Seiko's on a few occasions
If deleted this wouldnt be possible.


How will this affect sellers with multiple items of spare parts, such as Vlad?


I get where this is comming from, the same old watch being flogged like a dead horse, but we need to consider all aspects.

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If its way overpriced, move on and stop dwelling on it, theres usually something better and cheaper just around the corner.
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I voted dump after 25 bumps.

To Sharkman’s point WTB posts are different.

Drop your asking price to a realistic level if you want to sell. Something the forum members see value in buying. Ask for the moon on eBay, be realistic here I believe.
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I'd say when your watch has been bumped enough to fill 5 pages and has 40k views and it still hasn't sold, not only should the listing be deleted but the watch should be filmed being launched on a rocket and sent to space.
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Maybe bumps for parts is fine and should be left as is.
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I have found old posts that stopped being bumped but the item was still available and I have been contacted about old posts still out there and the item never sold, so I would not support deleting. I would say, however, no more than 5 bumps without a 10% (or whatever is decided to be appropriate) decrease in price. If you don't want to decrease the price, wait 30 days and repost, and start all over.



Keep in mind a rule is only good if enforced, and this will increase workload for someone!
I agree!
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I do not mind posts being deleted after 25 bumps (or some other arbitrary number). There’s actually a couple or so of my old posts i am intentionally letting die, as i can no longer edit the main post/title. Sometimes when you’re down to your last piece of an item that’s impossible to find, you’d want to raise the price just a bit for that final piece.


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Old 07-22-2019, 09:38 PM   #15 (permalink)
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I really, really, don't like the idea of forced price reduction. If you want to limit bumps, that's one thing, but you are trying to force a person to sell at a certain price.
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People will hold off on buying if they think the person will be forced to reduce price. This is a horrible idea.
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People will hold off on buying if they think the person will be forced to reduce price. This is a horrible idea.
Really, after 25 bumps? Not so sure.
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How will this affect sellers with multiple items of spare parts, such as Vlad?


Maybe just me but I stopped looking at his FS posts a long time ago. It’s kind of time for a fresh listing


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I'm sure I'm in the minority here, but I think mandatory price control, reductions, etc. should be avoided.

And as to deleting after 25 bumps, maybe 50 bumps as that would be close to two months if bumped every day.

Also, I sort of enjoy seeing some of the same listings bumped for eternity...sort of helps me keep track of the time passing.

One would think, however, that if something isn't selling at the listed asking price, there must be a reason and perhaps the seller should reconsider the position or face the reality that maybe the item is priced too high.

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Old 07-23-2019, 06:14 AM   #20 (permalink)
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Just curious. Is it really that much of an issue, or is it just a few listing that end up being forever bumped?
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I don't think it should be deleted. Keep the listing just don't let it go on over 25 pages. Assume it gets buried after sometime; anyone looking for that particular item can access it using the Search if it's still available.

And those current listings that have already surpassed 25 pages should be unable to bump any further.

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I'd say when your watch has been bumped enough to fill 5 pages and has 40k views and it still hasn't sold, not only should the listing be deleted but the watch should be filmed being launched on a rocket and sent to space.
Couldn't agree more, that's been on sale for 11 months at the same price. It ain't rocket science to realise that nobody wants it at that price.
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Lower the price.
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Old 07-23-2019, 10:11 AM   #24 (permalink)
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For starters, forcing a price reduction is an unfair proposition. Currently you set the price or together you come to a consensus on a price. This way both the seller and buyer are both happy. Automatic price reduction only benefits the buyer.

Second, the number of bumps is an irrelevant measure. You can delete your bumps. What you need is to be able to lock the post after 30 days (so you can't add bumps). The listing then just drops off but is never lost.

What are your thoughts?
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I'm all for deleting for sale posts at 25, but price reduction is a bad idea. As already stated people will just wait for the price reductions before they buy if interested.
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