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Old 07-14-2019, 02:40 AM   #1 (permalink)
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If both Japan model and other country manufacture is available, 3 questions;

Do you go for the Japan model?
Would you pay extra for Japan model?
Does it really matter what model you get?

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This thread has been going 12 years....

https://forums.watchuseek.com/f21/se...rth-66291.html
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This thread has been going 12 years....

https://forums.watchuseek.com/f21/se...rth-66291.html


Brilliant thank you....I’ve got a bit of reading to do


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And coincidentally BEFORE a man landed on the moon.
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[QUOTE=Dennisoul;2795043]If both Japan model and other country manufacture is available, 3 questions;

Do you go for the Japan model? That is just a matter of personal choice.
Would you pay extra for Japan model? Not personally.
Does it really matter what model you get? Only to you.

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Years ago when this debate started, I asked yserv.jp what the answer is. They responded that the J/K are nothing more than indicators of intended market distribution and nothing to do with where the watches are made.
Over the years both have been assembled in Singapore, Malaysia and now even China. Earlier many of the parts were made in Japan but eventually the offshore facilities began making the parts as well.
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If both Japan model and other country manufacture is available, 3 questions;

Do you go for the Japan model? That is just a matter of personal choice.
Would you pay extra for Japan model? Not personally.
Does it really matter what model you get? Only to you.

Any help appreciated


Years ago when this debate started, I asked yserv.jp what the answer is. They responded that the J/K are nothing more than indicators of intended market distribution and nothing to do with where the watches are made.
Over the years both have been assembled in Singapore, Malaysia and now even China. Earlier many of the parts were made in Japan but eventually the offshore facilities began making the parts as well.


Thank you for your answer...exactly my thoughts....after reading the thread link from start to finish that was posted, and your answer. I’ve come to the conclusion that the quality is exactly the same in J, K and all the other letter models....it’s just your luck if you get one that isn’t as good as the other no matter where it came from. And if you prefer to have “made in Japan” on the dial you may have to pay a bit more for that.


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Kanji day wheel for me is the bomb! Also , in the case of vintage quartz divers prefer the JDM versions without the SQ on the dial. Just personal preference. So yes, I would pay extra. Current models? Wouldn't care unless there's misalignment issues.

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Only if day-date model. Since am fond of Kanji.


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hahaha, i say YES to paying for the JDM versions. like rob, i like the kanji day wheel a lot! it's also kind of cool to have something that was not sold here originally. it's like giving the bird to the man and saying, "i got one anyway!" =)

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There may be no functional difference but a little different print on a dial can be valuable. Recently acquired a Prospex Padi but couldn't stomach "Mov't Japan" at the bottom so gladly paid for JDM.
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Do the old school diver's have much difference in value when it comes to manufacturing origins or personal preference all the way?
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Do the old school diver's have much difference in value when it comes to manufacturing origins or personal preference all the way?
The Hong Kong 6309-7049s are less valuable than Suwas and easily confused with fake dials (little to none date window bevel).
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Thanks for all your responses...really interesting and totally get the collectors thinking when it comes to true true originality.....I collect 60s/70s records and will easily pay the extra for the first true original. Great to see it carries over into all elements of collecting.


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The Hong Kong 6309-7049s are less valuable than Suwas and easily confused with fake dials (little to none date window bevel).
you think so? there's no way i'd sell one for less than the other, especially if the dial and hand set are in tip top condition.

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you think so? there's no way i'd sell one for less than the other, especially if the dial and hand set are in tip top condition.
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Just my opinion. I sold one and was accused of trying to pass off a fake dial. After sending the buyer a couple posts describing the HK version, he apologized. Recently accidentally bumped my watch, glanced at it and thought TGINTS (thank god it's not the Suwa). All things being equal, I think the Suwas sell for more.


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