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What is the reason they don’t put a metal frame around the DATE window on a diver watch?


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Rough tuff divers don’t need bling
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Is that a safety concern? It would look a lot nice if it frames like they did with the index on the dial.


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Is that a safety concern? It would look a lot nice if it frames like they did with the index on the dial.


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Dress watches are for bling. Divers are utility, doesn't have to be 'pretty' it has to be reliably functional. The last thing you need at 75-100 ft is a date window pop off inside and stop the watch. So, I guess it would be a safety reason.
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Cos at 30 or 40 meters down in murky waters the last thing your worried about is the nice shiney box around the date, your hoping the lume is good, as its about the only thing you will see.
Thats also the reason why most divers have dark coloured dials, its easier to see the lume against a darkback ground, than it is a light background.

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Dress watches are for bling. Divers are utility, doesn't have to be 'pretty' it has to be reliably functional. The last thing you need at 75-100 ft is a date window pop off inside and stop the watch. So, I guess it would be a safety reason.


I understand. If they can have the index framed securely I don’t see why not do it the same to the date windows unless there is a compliance issue.


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Dude. Its a visibility issue not a technical one. Black and white is easier to decern with the eye than something white next to shinny. Christ all mighty...
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You may want to try your posts here Chhon:

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I don't understand the issue. If you want a frame around the date get a 6105 and be done with it!
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I don't understand the issue. If you want a frame around the date get a 6105 and be done with it!

But then there wouldn't be anything to argue about
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Default Diver watch doesn’t have metal frame around DATE window

I am just noticing this fact and curious what it all about that all. I am not a diver but I love dive watch with blink and fancy with a rugged look. All good my friends!


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In 1974, an Australian deep sea diver ironically called Richy Sisyphean went diving looking for a ship wreck. Whilst trolling the depths of the waters looking for any remains of RMS Tahiti, rumour has it that the date window on his watch caught the light, and glinted like the scales on a Japanese Jack Mackerel, catching the eye of a nearby Great White. Well, he got a bite taken out of his torso as if he was a surf board in Jaws 3, and didn't make it. Speculation ensued and despite the fact he liked wearing sequen shirts and about 6 bangles in his daily life on land, 'they' put it down to the date window in this instance as he was dressed considerably low-key given the nature of your typical diver's garb, so it was the only explanation. It was either that or he was mean to Great Whites in a previous life.

Anyway, suffice to say at that point shiny date windows were eliminated from dive watches for being too dangerous to incorporate into a design.
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In 1974, an Australian deep sea diver ironically called Richy Sisyphean went diving looking for a ship wreck. Whilst trolling the depths of the waters looking for any remains of RMS Tahiti, rumour has it that the date window on his watch caught the light, and glinted like the scales on a Japanese Jack Mackerel, catching the eye of a nearby Great White. Well, he got a bite taken out of his torso as if he was a surf board in Jaws 3, and didn't make it. Speculation ensued and despite the fact he liked wearing sequen shirts and about 6 bangles in his daily life on land, 'they' put it down to the date window in this instance as he was dressed considerably low-key given the nature of your typical diver's garb, so it was the only explanation. It was either that or he was mean to Great Whites in a previous life.

Anyway, suffice to say at that point shiny date windows were eliminated from dive watches for being too dangerous to incorporate into a design.


I understand the safety concerns but take a look at this picture. If they can framed the lume dot does it make any difference to frame the date window? And why the diver needs to know the date when he is in the middle of diving?


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Sometimes it's so dark down there they forget if it's still the same day they went diving.
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In 1974, an Australian deep sea diver ironically called Richy Sisyphean went diving looking for a ship wreck. Whilst trolling the depths of the waters looking for any remains of RMS Tahiti, rumour has it that the date window on his watch caught the light, and glinted like the scales on a Japanese Jack Mackerel, catching the eye of a nearby Great White. Well, he got a bite taken out of his torso as if he was a surf board in Jaws 3, and didn't make it. Speculation ensued and despite the fact he liked wearing sequen shirts and about 6 bangles in his daily life on land, 'they' put it down to the date window in this instance as he was dressed considerably low-key given the nature of your typical diver's garb, so it was the only explanation. It was either that or he was mean to Great Whites in a previous life.

Anyway, suffice to say at that point shiny date windows were eliminated from dive watches for being too dangerous to incorporate into a design.


I understand the safety concerns but take a look at this picture. If they can framed the lume dot does it make any difference to frame the date window? And why the diver needs to know the date when he is in the middle of diving?


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If they framed the date, then you wouldn’t have asked this question. If you didn’t ask the question, We wouldn’t have replied. If we hadn’t replied you would have been the only one posting here, making it look like you’re talking to yourself.
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I read somewhere online that most real professional divers these days don’t use a dive watch anymore they wear some type of rugged portable computer with easy to read LCD.


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In diving it's all about redundancy. I dive with a computer but as they say you plan a dive and dive the plan. I set my bezel before I hit the water. If it's 100ft dive that's supposed to last 30 minutes, That's what I set. When everything fails you go old school.
Btw, show me a diver without a dive watch.

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I read somewhere online that most real professional divers these days don’t use a dive watch anymore they wear some type of rugged portable computer with easy to read LCD.


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Thats it. Im out. All my watches will be going on the Trading post tonight. I'm buying a dive computer. Who cares about the looks Ill get from my co-workers...or that its not "convenient", they just dont understand! Its cool, and tells me the depth in my bathtub....and the time or course.
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My dive computer only has desk diving marks.
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Because the gold standard dive watch does not have one - look at a Rolex Submariner Date. The end.


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Because the gold standard dive watch does not have one - look at a Rolex Submariner Date. The end.


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Ok. Mod please close this thread before people get pissssed off with me again! Thank you!


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In 1974, an Australian deep sea diver ironically called Richy Sisyphean went diving looking for a ship wreck. Whilst trolling the depths of the waters looking for any remains of RMS Tahiti, rumour has it that the date window on his watch caught the light, and glinted like the scales on a Japanese Jack Mackerel, catching the eye of a nearby Great White. Well, he got a bite taken out of his torso as if he was a surf board in Jaws 3, and didn't make it. Speculation ensued and despite the fact he liked wearing sequen shirts and about 6 bangles in his daily life on land, 'they' put it down to the date window in this instance as he was dressed considerably low-key given the nature of your typical diver's garb, so it was the only explanation. It was either that or he was mean to Great Whites in a previous life.

Anyway, suffice to say at that point shiny date windows were eliminated from dive watches for being too dangerous to incorporate into a design.
guy, that's so funny, i was going to write the same thing, but you did it
better than i would have, just as the stimulus in this thread played himself
so much better than anybody's parody could have.

i do think there's a language barrier going on, and more than we can
guess beyond that.

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That looks very nice with framed date window.


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