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Old 02-19-2019, 09:07 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Seiko Nasa Spinoff watch. Need more info.

Ive seen a few postings about this watch pop on ebay a couple of times. But cant seem to find any useful references with google.

Claims to be a limited edition piece with upto 1000 (500whitedials/500blackdials) ever made and theres a numbered stamping on the case back.

Im trying to find out if this is the real deal or just some Chinese no brand watch manufacturer using a cheap Seiko quartz V-57 movement.

Has Seiko really ever collaborated with Nasa to produce this model? It seems so doubtful

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I own one. Bit the dust and hype especially after reading NASA, Space, Endeavour, etc.

I don't think it's an official tie-up with NASA though. If it was, the insignia should be the NASA "worm" logotype.

Still, the watch tells a good story; with the dial being taken from an actual shuttle tile that went to space.

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I think that is totally awesome Jan. I'm a devout fan of all things NASA and the Space Program. I never knew about this watch before today and I'd jump through rings of fire to have one of those in my collection. You wouldn't be needing a kidney would you? I've got an extra one I don't need, bwahaha.
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I own one. Bit the dust and hype especially after reading NASA, Space, Endeavour, etc.

I don't think it's an official tie-up with NASA though. If it was, the insignia should be the NASA "worm" logotype.

Still, the watch tells a good story; with the dial being taken from an actual shuttle tile that went to space.

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You and me buddy lol. I was randomly going through the listings and saw it posted from Japan. And after skimming over I hit the BIN, now im not sure if I should be excited or cautious .

Btw do you have any idea if the watch was wholly manufactured at Seiko or if it's some microbrand using Seiko movt?

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NASA had nothing to do with this. Someone bought a shuttle tile (or the material) and used it to make a dial. I've seen similar made with material from a Soyuz or Proton. Cool memento but the association with the space program was created, just like a poster, patch or other. Nothing wrong with it, just realize the watch itself has nothing to do with NASA.

I love space memorabilia. This is as cool as the next thing. If you like it, buy it.

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I think that is totally awesome Jan. I'm a devout fan of all things NASA and the Space Program. I never knew about this watch before today and I'd jump through rings of fire to have one of those in my collection. You wouldn't be needing a kidney would you? I've got an extra one I don't need, bwahaha.
PM sent, Kenny. I'll hook you up with the AD I got this from.

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And of course, the shirt has to be worn with the watch.

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And of course, the shirt has to be worn with the watch.

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Well that's a given! Looks great!

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But cant seem to find any useful references with google.

Try a bit harder and you might have found this: http://synchronar.blogspot.com/2017/07/nasa-watch.html
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That does look good, especially with the NASA shirt!

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Try a bit harder and you might have found this: http://synchronar.blogspot.com/2017/07/nasa-watch.html
Thanks Paul,
translation is a bit rough and from what I gather it seems these watches might be limited edition but they are still readily available. I still can't make out if the watch was assembled by Seiko or in a sweat shop.

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!00% authentic Chinese mushroom. Everything about the watch screams mushroom; from the poor Engrish to the Y200T on the case back.


Seiko always puts dial text below the 6 o'clock position, even for third part watches.


It doesn't matter what is inside the watch because the externals are a lie.


I hope none of you paid more than $50 for these things
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Upon closer inspection the red flags went up. Manufactured by Seiko with no sign of their brand name? No movement info to be found on dial or case back? Limited edition without any representation on the watch? Supposed dial made from shuttle tile but image of X-33 on back? My dreams have been shattered. .

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Upon closer inspection the red flags went up. Manufactured by Seiko with no sign of their brand name? No movement info to be found on dial or case back? Limited edition without any representation on the watch? Supposed dial made from shuttle tile but image of X-33 on back? My dreams have been shattered. .

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Sorry I know this post is kind of for over a year ago now. but I recently researched about this watch as I got one which I wanted to sell, and since I live in Japan and know Japanese, I found out lots of interesting stuff, which I gathered and translated for my item.

First, @Kenny6139 ,That's not red flags. I think that you haven't read or watch closely maybe. There was a link a few posts earlier in Japanese. if you google translaed it you would see that First there IS Seiko brand's special symbols on the watch. Also the Movement info is in the case back too:
See this picture. The movement on the back of the Watch is Seiko's VD57 and the battery is SR920SW.
The SII mark of Seiko Instruments is also engraved on the back of the case and on the other side of the crown-in the left of this pic-.



Also It is a tile that was actually used for Endeavor (The Japanese Astronout Mamoru Mohri was also on board, and he helped obtaining it)

Another interesting Fact, you see the item has a document made and signed by Space Age America Inc.
According to Book "Apollo in Perspective: Spaceflight Then and Now", The President for Company "Space Age America" which was involved in making this Item, was Comdr "Richard F Gordon" himself, Retired from NASA and the Navy, with the rank of Captain. He was also a Chairman to Astro Science Corporation in LA.
You could see the Company's Chairman of 2003 signature on the document there. although I can not read who exactly it says.

I have researched and gathered all the info on my item which I put on sale. you can read more info by looking up the item "RARE Seiko NASA Spinoff Chronograph Watch Made of Space Shuttle Endeavor Tiles" on Ebay.



hope this helps!

Sepi

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!00% authentic Chinese mushroom. Everything about the watch screams mushroom; from the poor Engrish to the Y200T on the case back.


Seiko always puts dial text below the 6 o'clock position, even for third part watches.


It doesn't matter what is inside the watch because the externals are a lie.


I hope none of you paid more than $50 for these things
Well, I'll put my hand up and say that I came close to buying one of these things myself at the time - and kind of regret not doing so. Had there been the option of a white 'Panda' dial, I probably would have done.

It may have been a distinctly low-buck effort in terms of marketing, but IMHO is no worse than some of the 'special limited edition' space watches turned out by the likes of Fortis, Omega and Yema (FYI - all of whose components are 90% manufactured in China nowadays !)

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Upon closer inspection the red flags went up. Manufactured by Seiko with no sign of their brand name?
And as the man says ....

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The SII mark of Seiko Instruments is also engraved on the back of the case and on the other side of the crown-in the left of this pic-.

Bottom centre in this photo from the UTdesign blog article.

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It may have been a distinctly low-buck effort in terms of marketing, but IMHO is no worse than some of the 'special limited edition' space watches turned out by the likes of Fortis, Omega and Yema (FYI - all of whose components are 90% manufactured in China nowadays !)
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Thanks Man! But what is absolutely true is that this watch was 100% Made in Japan by Seiko in 2003
it doesn't have the BIG Seiko logo on the front because the original Designs and developer behind this was someone else...
And this is very interesting but, The proprietor of a famous old Japanese all-goods shop in Tokyo's Ginza area(Which was huge back in 2003) was the original developer of this range. He had a Vision and by visiting NASA headquarters and negotiating to produce the watches, He got his hands on parts of the Space Shuttle Endeaver from The Japanese Astronaut Mamoru Mohri. Apparently he made it with the help of Space Age America INC. and Seiko took the burden of Designing, manufacturing and selling it.
Here is his actual first production drafts for this watch:



I think it's kind of Unfair that Japan has done so many amazing things which sometimes gets buried under lack of English information or just... modesty

here is some more details in Japanese: synchronar.blogspot.com/2017/07/nasa-watch.html

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Sorry I know this post is kind of for over a year ago now. but I recently researched about this watch as I got one which I wanted to sell, and since I live in Japan and know Japanese, I found out lots of interesting stuff, which I gathered and translated for my item.

First, @Kenny6139 ,That's not red flags. I think that you haven't read or watch closely maybe. There was a link a few posts earlier in Japanese. if you google translaed it you would see that First there IS Seiko brand's special symbols on the watch. Also the Movement info is in the case back too:
See this picture. The movement on the back of the Watch is Seiko's VD57 and the battery is SR920SW.
The SII mark of Seiko Instruments is also engraved on the back of the case and on the other side of the crown-in the left of this pic-.



Also It is a tile that was actually used for Endeavor (The Japanese Astronout Mamoru Mohri was also on board, and he helped obtaining it)

Another interesting Fact, you see the item has a document made and signed by Space Age America Inc.
According to Book "Apollo in Perspective: Spaceflight Then and Now", The President for Company "Space Age America" which was involved in making this Item, was Comdr "Richard F Gordon" himself, Retired from NASA and the Navy, with the rank of Captain. He was also a Chairman to Astro Science Corporation in LA.
You could see the Company's Chairman of 2003 signature on the document there. although I can not read who exactly it says.

I have researched and gathered all the info on my item which I put on sale. you can read more info by looking up the item "RARE Seiko NASA Spinoff Chronograph Watch Made of Space Shuttle Endeavor Tiles" on Ebay.



hope this helps!

Sepi
Thank you (Hanta), Sepi Arwen.

I still wear my NASA watch with all smiles.
Like we all wanted to be astronauts some time in our childhood, right?

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My initial thought would be why / how would you use a telemeter scale in space ? Surely you will never hear a sound as there is no atmosphere to transmit the waves, or if your in your spacecraft all you would hear would be from the spacecraft itself or whats inside it.
Nice looking watch.
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Like we all wanted to be astronauts some time in our childhood, right?
That or racing drivers !

Here's another 'grail' watch of mine that I've recently acquired, which was produced in Japan (by Orient Watch Co. Ltd.) It's an Orient J39701-70 with a black and white depiction the 1985 Indianapolis 500 logo. It doesn't have the Orient logo on the dial, but it does have SI* in tiny lettering at the bottom. I'm still investigating its origins at the moment, but its production appears to have been initiated by a Japan-based representative of the Indianapolis Motor Speedway. This was my last communication from Nicole Garside (Director of Licensing at Indianapolis Motor Speedway and Senior Director, Consumer Products at IndyCar):

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Let me do some digging. We had an agent in Japan representing us at that time so it is very possible. I didn’t start here until ’99 so I may or may not be able to find this information. But I will try.



*Prior to 1997, Seiko previously used the abbreviation SI rather than the current SII. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seiko_Instruments

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Thank you (Hanta), Sepi Arwen.

I still wear my NASA watch with all smiles.
Like we all wanted to be astronauts some time in our childhood, right?

Jan Raymund
That is too beautiful. honestly I really want the one I have for myself but it is too big and heavy for my hands I also wanted to be an astronaut but not some time in our childhood, it was my whole childhood, I even memorized all the biographies of american and russian pilots and astronauts with every single dates of their missions and birth and death xD and it was all Until, well, when I realized I can't ever become one because of a disability I have...
So anyway, I can understand how trilling this watch can be for any Space and Nasa fan

Here is Mine. it is serial number 997. What was yours?

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Here is Mine. it is serial number 997. What was yours?

So yours has already been bid to $860. Not bad going.
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So yours has already been bid to $860. Not bad going.
Aw, Thanks. Haha but Honestly I bought it expensive, so this is not enough at all. it is being sold for over 1000$ on Ebay, if there were any

Also, the highest bidder just asked me to cancel their bid. argh
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Aw, Thanks. Haha but Honestly I bought it expensive, so this is not enough at all. it is being sold for over 1000$ on Ebay, if there were any

Also, the highest bidder just asked me to cancel their bid. argh
yeah, as I feared it went back to $500.00. lol
anybody interested in getting one here?
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macgyverandpetes2000 (who generally charge top dollar) have one on eBay for $599.
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That is too beautiful. honestly I really want the one I have for myself but it is too big and heavy for my hands I also wanted to be an astronaut but not some time in our childhood, it was my whole childhood, I even memorized all the biographies of american and russian pilots and astronauts with every single dates of their missions and birth and death xD and it was all Until, well, when I realized I can't ever become one because of a disability I have...

So anyway, I can understand how trilling this watch can be for any Space and Nasa fan



Here is Mine. it is serial number 997. What was yours?



My is 974 / 1000.

It seems like you got yours for peak price.
How much did you purchase it?
I got mine from AD at a reasonable figure.



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