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Old 05-24-2010, 06:40 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Lume on after-market dials?

Does it ever come up to the (very high!) standards of Seiko divers? And which after-market dials have the best lume?

I care because I'm looking for a dial without a date window - I'd guess that the $30 superluminova "Milsub" at 10watches dials is one of the best such dials, but how close will it get to Seiko-ness?

PS This is my first post here - hi!

Edited to add: Reading Pin Guan's post I realized that I should have said the watch is an SKX007.
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Does it ever come up to the (very high!) standards of Seiko divers? And which after-market dials have the best lume?

I care because I'm looking for a dial without a date window - I'd guess that the $30 superluminova "Milsub" at 10watches dials is one of the best such dials, but how close will it get to Seiko-ness?

PS This is my first post here - hi!
Most after market dials don't even come close to the Seiko brightness nor it's longevity. Some do and the comparison will depend on the Seiko dial you are comparing to. The reason for that is the amount and type of lume that is on the markers and hands. Surface area and thickness are the two differentiating factors, so if you can find a similar after market dial to the Seiko being compared, it should come pretty close.
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My own experience of after market dials depends greatly on were you get them from and obviously what you pay as well, i can say for sure the majority of the cheap after market dials have totally rubbish or non existent Lume and a lot of them have "paint" on them rather than real Lume.
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a lot of them have "paint" on them rather than real Lume.


But the paint is 'lume' coloured, right?

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But the paint is 'lume' coloured, right?

Right and i think also water based and i have had the lume drop off the dial because it is not "stuck" to the dial.
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I don't know this one isn't so bad!?





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I don't know this one isn't so bad!?

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Hi Bry,

Has that one been relumed...the indeces look pretty thick for the average after market dial?
If not, this may be a supplier the OP is looking for.
If so then it shows that with a little effort, even an after market dial with nothing more than 'paint' can be made to put out a pretty respectable display!
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I don't know this one isn't so bad!?

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[color=navy]That one is really good but..................what was it like [glow=red,2,300]before [/glow][color=navy]you did the quality relume on it ? real nice job Bry they are not the easiest of dial to relume and get it right thats for sure.
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Does it ever come up to the (very high!) standards of Seiko divers? And which after-market dials have the best lume?

I care because I'm looking for a dial without a date window - I'd guess that the $30 superluminova "Milsub" at 10watches dials is one of the best such dials, but how close will it get to Seiko-ness?

PS This is my first post here - hi!

Edited to add: Reading Pin Guan's post I realized that I should have said the watch is an SKX007.
While I can't speak for the lume quality of that specific dial, my comments on aftermarket dials in general echo both pete and john. It really depends on the part you buy and who you are buying it from. some sellers have build solid reputations on building high quality aftermarket parts for our favorite seikos. That said, depending on the part, some are of better quality than others. For example at one time or another, most of our favorite forum based sellers have had dials and hands (especially dials) whose lume application was either not the best or not on par with their more recent offerings. Thankfully, by and large, most of the offerings of those part sellers who frequent watch forums have improved and tend to be of very nice quality and have decent lume applications.

That said, the same is not true of all aftermarket part sellers. For example, ebay is lousy with bad aftermarket parts (as well as good ones). I would strongly advice you to expand on what you are already doing and find specific parts you are interested in, and ask the forum (and the seller) any specific questions you might have. those who have had experiences with that seller and/or that part will be happy to chime in.
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Nar that's a relume with 2coats I did her last night.

If you want glow duration you need to have marker depth maximum glow is at 0.75mm generally.
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Scuttle, I have owned the milsub dial you're asking about specifically. Its lume is way better than most aftermarket dials (like those generally referenced in this thread). But it's not quite as thick or bright or long-lasting as an original Seiko diver dial. I would say it's more in line with a Seiko 5 dial than a Seiko diver dial. Hope that helps...
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Scuttle, I have owned the milsub dial you're asking about specifically. Its lume is way better than most aftermarket dials (like those generally referenced in this thread). But it's not quite as thick or bright or long-lasting as an original Seiko diver dial. I would say it's more in line with a Seiko 5 dial than a Seiko diver dial. Hope that helps...
That's a brilliantly clear answer - thank you!
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